Portis Overrated?

[wolfeskins]

clinton portis, from what i've seen and heard, is also a great teammate and a good locker room guy. both of those traits are also very important on a joe gibbs coached team.

[wolfeskins]

brad johnson, the only qb to take the skins to the playoffs in the last 10 years

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

brad johnson, the only qb to take the skins to the playoffs in the last 10 years

Exactly. I prefer to judge QBs based on winning.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Exactly. I prefer to judge QBs based on winning.

and he looks pretty good in minn. right know too.

[Anthony Chance]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Exactly. I prefer to judge QBs based on winning.

So, what do you judge RBs on because if you haven't noticed we are not winning.

I don't understand why so many praise Portis, and critisize Brunell. This is a team and everyone is equaly responsible for the loosing seasons.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

So, what do you judge RBs on because if you haven't noticed we are not winning.

I don't understand why so many praise Portis, and critisize Brunell. This is a team and everyone is equaly responsible for the loosing seasons.

I base my assessment of running backs on yards and yards per carry. Period. I pretty much judge QBs on winning, TDs and yards. Of those I would say that Portis qualifies as a very good back and Brunell is only a mediocre QB.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I base my assessment of running backs on yards and yards per carry. Period. I pretty much judge QBs on winning, TDs and yards. Of those I would say that Portis qualifies as a very good back and Brunell is only a mediocre QB.

following that logic, we should run out and get T.O. :frusty:

[jdlea]

Based on what he does between the lines he's great. Would you argue that he's a great reciever? He's an asshole, but that doesn't mean he can't play the game. I wouldn't get him because there's no telling what he'd say to the media, but if I could get him to shut up and play, you're damn right I'd take him.

FYI, I'm not so naive that I think that anyone can get TO to shut up and play.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by illdefined

following that logic, we should run out and get T.O. :frusty:

he never said what he basis a wr on .

[Anthony Chance]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I base my assessment of running backs on yards and yards per carry. Period. I pretty much judge QBs on winning, TDs and yards. Of those I would say that Portis qualifies as a very good back and Brunell is only a mediocre QB.

I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.

you left out a huge problem and probably the biggest, too many 3 and out on offense , that mostly falls on gibbs and brunell . it also leads to a lot of the struggles on defense , the offense needs to be able to put together some drives so that the defense can catch thier breath.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.

I would take a ton of QBs over Mark Brunell right now. I would agree that there have been break downs in other areas of the game, but he hasn't done much to make up for those shortcomings and that's the problem that I have with him. He never seems to play with any kind of urgency, outside of the Dallas game.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Anthony Chance

I wouldn't trade Brunell for any other QB right now. He has done more than enough to win games. Our problems lie within bad play calling, giving up big plays on defense, terrible game changing calls by the officials, not getting turnovers on defense, and poor play by special teams.

you guys must not watch the games. instead you must just look at the numbers in the paper the next day. Portis has saved Brunell's ass SO many times...