Our offense CANNOT score!!!

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

After checking the stats, only one wide receiver other than Santana Moss caught the ball today:

Taylor Jacobs -- 1 catch for 7 yards.

That's pathetic, and Taylor Jacobs is officially not up to being a wide receiver in the NFL.

I mean really, is there anyone who will dispute this?

Maybe Patten wasent so bad, afterall....

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Maybe Patten wasent so bad, afterall....

I think Tony McGee hit the nail on the head awhile back when he said that even though Patten didn't have many catches, defenses still had to respect the threat he posed. Now, you can double Santana Moss, keep Cooley contained underneath, and that's all there is to the Washington Redskins passing attack.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I think Tony McGee hit the nail on the head awhile back when he said that even though Patten didn't have many catches, defenses still had to respect the threat he posed. Now, you can double Santana Moss, keep Cooley contained underneath, and that's all there is to the Washington Redskins passing attack.

I agree.

Patten was much more valuable than we thought.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree.

Patten was much more valuable than we thought.

Yeah, I knew it was more Brunell than Patten, as the cause of his lack of production. And I'm not making a "Brunell sucks" comment. I'm just saying that it seems as though Brunell has developed the QB/WR trust relationship with Moss, that a quarterback should have with all his receivers, but never developed it with Patten. I didn't believe for a second that the veteran, Super Bowl winning wideout, all of the sudden sucked, when he never had any trouble getting open, and catching balls when he was in New England.

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Opponents don't really have any reason to respect it. Even today, with Portis barely cracking the 100-yard mark against the 26th ranked run defense, and with him being responsible for the team's only offensive touchdown, the game was still way too close, and had it not been for that last 7-yard run on third and 6 to close out the game, it could have been a scenario very similar to the Tampa Bay game.

No reason to respect the running game, huh? I always thought that putting eight in the box to stop the run on better than 50% of your defensive plays meant that you were worried about the run, and didn't fear the passing threat.

[skindogger47]

It's playcalling. The Redskins have the most predictable offense in the NFL. There are no audibles at the line of scrimmage, and teams will stack one side of the box and we'll run right into them. We also seem to be lacking three of the most crucial plays we could be running--quick slants, especially to Moss, screens to Portis, and a draw play every now and again in shotgun certainly wouldn't hurt. I mean, really, Coach Gibbs, I love you and will always be in your corner, but how do I, a 24 year old slacker who has never played organized football in his life, know these things that will help us and you fail to see it? Not to mention our jumbo sets on 1st down--no shit they are going to stack the box. And then we put 3 tight ends in and send one receiver down the field (Santana) who is obviously going to be triple covered, and say the defense had a great scheme. Give me a break, any other coach with that talent could have easily put up 30 points on the Cardinals.

Oh yeah, one more thing. Where the F was Rock Cartwright? Poor form, Coach. Poor form.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

No reason to respect the running game, huh? I always thought that putting eight in the box to stop the run on better than 50% of your defensive plays meant that you were were worried about the run, and didn't fear the passing threat.

we're 2 dimensional right now (one more big dimension than last year at least). 8 close up vs. the Portis and 2-3 up top vs. Moss.

the middle is vulnerable right now and that's why Cooley has been gobbling up yards, but he's big and slow, so you can keep linebackers in to cover him (and tackle him). that makes it harder for Portis.

what we need is a tougher, more physical no.2 WR that can dart into the middle and burn linebackers, but take the ensuing shots from the safeties. i think then we'd be in perfect shape offensively. until then, Thrash is the closest thing.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

No reason to respect the running game, huh? I always thought that putting eight in the box to stop the run on better than 50% of your defensive plays meant that you were worried about the run, and didn't fear the passing threat.

Until we can win a game by running the ball when we have to and getting touchdowns as a result, I'd say that our opponents right now are more concerned with stopping Santana Moss than Clinton Portis.

That 7-yard run to seal up the win was the first time I can remember since the Chicago game that Portis and the O-line was able to run out the clock and get a first down when the team absolutely needed it. When this team starts doing that consistently, I maintain that this rushing attack is far from being considered "scary."

I would also dispute that teams are stacking the box on more than 50% of Redskin offensive plays. We saw it a lot yesterday because Arizona is known for playing an aggressive defense.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I would also dispute that teams are stacking the box on more than 50% of Redskin offensive plays. We saw it a lot yesterday because Arizona is known for playing an aggressive defense.

Yes, they're a very aggressive, 26th ranked defense. And you must be right. Why would anyone respect Washingtons rushing attack, which is only 5th in the league, when you have the 19th ranked passing attack to watch out for?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Yes, they're a very aggressive, 26th ranked defense. And you must be right. Why would anyone respect Washingtons rushing attack, which is only 5th in the league, when you have the 19th ranked passing attack to watch out for?

eh, don't bother Southpaw. apparently stats are relative.
http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.p...3&postcount=16

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I would also dispute that teams are stacking the box on more than 50% of Redskin offensive plays. We saw it a lot yesterday because Arizona is known for playing an aggressive defense.

I strongly dispute your contention that opponents are not stacking the box on at least 50% of our plays. Sorry, but I watch the games several times a week and I'm seeing something completely different than you. I suggest you explicitly look for it next time you watch a Skins game.