Taylor Effing Heinicke

[Chief X_Phackter]

I don't think anyone is blaming the offense as much as the defense. That would be indefensible.

The offense has been a pleasant surprise overall. I expected improvement from last year, mostly because there had to be, and so far I think we're getting it. Now, if they could just cut down on the turnovers and put a little pressure on the opponent by scoring some early points, it would be even better. With how bad this defense is playing, giving extra possessions away is no bueno.

Crazy, we're all ok with a "serviceable" offense, and I think that is about what I expected this year. That in and of itself is depressing.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

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Crazy, we're all ok with a "serviceable" offense, and I think that is about what I expected this year. That in and of itself is depressing.

We knew that we didn't have a franchise qb and were going from a 32nd ranked offense. We basically hoped for stability at the qb position. In addition our free agent splash Samuel has been MIA, we are without the right side of our line, our main compliment to McLaurin is out, our hopeful rookie receiver is out. And our star rb has a fractured shin.

12th in scoring is pretty damn good, and I don't feel bad being happy with that. Yes a few plays could have been better. The first quarter issues could definitely be better. But I am not depressed about the offense at all.

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[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

We knew that we didn't have a franchise qb and were going from a 32nd ranked offense. We basically hoped for stability at the qb position. In addition our free agent splash Samuel has been MIA, we are without the right side of our line, our main compliment to McLaurin is out, our hopeful rookie receiver is out. And our star rb has a fractured shin.

12th in scoring is pretty damn good, and I don't feel bad being happy with that. Yes a few plays could have been better. The first quarter issues could definitely be better. But I am not depressed about the offense at all.

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I have acknowledged that there weren't a lot of expectations with regard to the offense, especially as compared to the defense. But just in general, it is depressing (to me) that we are cool with a "serviceable" offense.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I have acknowledged that there weren't a lot of expectations with regard to the offense, especially as compared to the defense. But just in general, it is depressing (to me) that we are cool with a "serviceable" offense.

I think we are saying that at worst it has been serviceable. There is nothing wrong with a low ceiling that is serviceable is there?
Doesn’t mean at best it is superb but I never feel like they do not have a chance to move the ball and or score.

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I have acknowledged that there weren't a lot of expectations with regard to the offense, especially as compared to the defense. But just in general, it is depressing (to me) that we are cool with a "serviceable" offense.

But weren't we kind of expecting only a serviceable offense with Fitz being signed as our number 1? We basically went into the season with some upgraded receivers, and 3 back up qbs...
Our d was supposed to be the thing that was above average. I think our offense was always going to be considered only average at best.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

But weren't we kind of expecting only a serviceable offense with Fitz being signed as our number 1? We basically went into the season with some upgraded receivers, and 3 back up qbs...
Our d was supposed to be the thing that was above average. I think our offense was always going to be considered only average at best.

100

Now all we have is a serviceable offense and a dismantled defense.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

But weren't we kind of expecting only a serviceable offense with Fitz being signed as our number 1? We basically went into the season with some upgraded receivers, and 3 back up qbs...
Our d was supposed to be the thing that was above average. I think our offense was always going to be considered only average at best.

Exactly nobody is saying our offense is set for ten years. Our defense on the other hand which appeared to be close to a finished product has been a train wreck.

IMO the offense has exceeded expectations even if the bar was low ya gotta be happy that it is better than we thought. Almost top 10 in points per game is not exactly average or serviceable.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Exactly nobody is saying our offense is set for ten years. Our defense on the other hand which appeared to be close to a finished product has been a train wreck.

IMO the offense has exceeded expectations even if the bar was low ya gotta be happy that it is better than we thought. Almost top 10 in points per game is not exactly average or serviceable.

I'm happy the offense has exceeded expectations. It had to in order to compete this year. Hopefully it can get a little more consistent, and less prone to TOs as the season progresses.

After last season, I thought the defense would take a step back this year, but I thought it would be mainly due to this year's competition, and likely not facing a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string QBs as they did last year. But I'll also admit, I bought the hype over the summer with the signing of W Jackson, drafting J Davis, Matty I coming back, year two under JDR... so far, calling them a train wreck is being nice.

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm happy the offense has exceeded expectations. It had to in order to compete this year. Hopefully it can get a little more consistent, and less prone to TOs as the season progresses.

After last season, I thought the defense would take a step back this year, but I thought it would be mainly due to this year's competition, and likely not facing a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string QBs as they did last year. But I'll also admit, I bought the hype over the summer with the signing of W Jackson, drafting J Davis, Matty I coming back, year two under JDR... so far, calling them a train wreck is being nice.

I def bought into the hype. I mean, on paper...total upgrades. We knew the lb group would be the weak spot. I hoped we could get by with them, though as our line, and secondary would make up for the weak spot. But yea...its been absolutely abysmal so far. Being middle of the pack on defense would have been a little bit of a let down....but being among one of the worst in the entire league is just deflating. This is one of the worst years for morale as a fan that I personally have ever felt.
All I can do is laugh anymore. I have 0 hope for success in the near future. Within the next 2 years I can see a total overhaul (again) in coaching staff. And while it may be needed depending on how things go....it'll put us right back where we have been since like '99. I'm getting to the point where I'm really losing hope that we can ever turn this thing around.
I know I'm stating the obvious here, but we are one of the most poorly run sports franchises across all major sports...and I would dare to say of all time.
It really boggles the mind how the upper echelons of our management structure can be THIS incompetent for this long. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while....but not this squirrel.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm happy the offense has exceeded expectations. It had to in order to compete this year. Hopefully it can get a little more consistent, and less prone to TOs as the season progresses.

After last season, I thought the defense would take a step back this year, but I thought it would be mainly due to this year's competition, and likely not facing a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string QBs as they did last year. But I'll also admit, I bought the hype over the summer with the signing of W Jackson, drafting J Davis, Matty I coming back, year two under JDR... so far, calling them a train wreck is being nice.

Bought in hard because of those exact four things you mentioned and in that order. Maybe Matty I over JD. Not that u were listing them in order. Oh well. One of these years Chief. Just like it used to be.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I have acknowledged that there weren't a lot of expectations with regard to the offense, especially as compared to the defense. But just in general, it is depressing (to me) that we are cool with a "serviceable" offense.

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

But weren't we kind of expecting only a serviceable offense with Fitz being signed as our number 1? We basically went into the season with some upgraded receivers, and 3 back up qbs...
Our d was supposed to be the thing that was above average. I think our offense was always going to be considered only average at best.

I think we're saying the same thing here.

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think we're saying the same thing here.

Ah.. sorry. I misunderstood/misread.

I know we all just want to see us clicking the way we all had the presumption we would.
This is one of the most underwhelming seasons I can remember as a fan.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I have acknowledged that there weren't a lot of expectations with regard to the offense, especially as compared to the defense. But just in general, it is depressing (to me) that we are cool with a "serviceable" offense.

Who is cool with a serviceable offense? Nobody on this site. I think we all know that we still have a a lot of work to do to build the offense we need in order to contend.

The fact that we finished on top of the trash heap that was the NFC East last season should have changed nothing in regard to the building process. But it did. It distracted Ron Rivera from focusing on the goal of building a contender. He is instead trying to win now by bringing in veterans and playing them over developing young players who were coming along nicely. Rivera has lost his way.

As for Taylor Heineke, I think that 90% of the people on this site know what we have in him. He is a fearless gunslinger who is capable of winning or losing games for us with magical throws or horrible interceptions, and one result is just as likely as the other. Yes, we need a Franchise Quarterback, and soon. Nearly everybody here knows that.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Who is cool with a serviceable offense? Nobody on this site. I think we all know that we still have a a lot of work to do to build the offense we need in order to contend.

The fact that we finished on top of the trash heap that was the NFC East last season should have changed nothing in regard to the building process. But it did. It distracted Ron Rivera from focusing on the goal of building a contender. He is instead trying to win now by bringing in veterans and playing them over developing young players who were coming along nicely. Rivera has lost his way.

As for Taylor Heineke, I think that 90% of the people on this site know what we have in him. He is a fearless gunslinger who is capable of winning or losing games for us with magical throws or horrible interceptions, and one result is just as likely as the other. Yes, we need a Franchise Quarterback, and soon. Nearly everybody here knows that.

Before you speak for everyone on the site, you might want to read the last several pages.

[OnceWeWereKings]

I'm, personally, very happy with our offense putting up over 20 every game.
Extremely unhappy with our defense giving up over 30 every game.
There will be games where the offense doesn't score a ton, and the qb has an off day. That happens. Even if it's Brady under center.
And there will be times when the defense gives up a ton of points and loses a game...even if you're the 85 bears.
But us giving up a ton of points has become the norm. It's really unfortunate.