Taylor Effing Heinicke

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

But weren't we kind of expecting only a serviceable offense with Fitz being signed as our number 1? We basically went into the season with some upgraded receivers, and 3 back up qbs...
Our d was supposed to be the thing that was above average. I think our offense was always going to be considered only average at best.

Exactly nobody is saying our offense is set for ten years. Our defense on the other hand which appeared to be close to a finished product has been a train wreck.

IMO the offense has exceeded expectations even if the bar was low ya gotta be happy that it is better than we thought. Almost top 10 in points per game is not exactly average or serviceable.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Exactly nobody is saying our offense is set for ten years. Our defense on the other hand which appeared to be close to a finished product has been a train wreck.

IMO the offense has exceeded expectations even if the bar was low ya gotta be happy that it is better than we thought. Almost top 10 in points per game is not exactly average or serviceable.

I'm happy the offense has exceeded expectations. It had to in order to compete this year. Hopefully it can get a little more consistent, and less prone to TOs as the season progresses.

After last season, I thought the defense would take a step back this year, but I thought it would be mainly due to this year's competition, and likely not facing a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string QBs as they did last year. But I'll also admit, I bought the hype over the summer with the signing of W Jackson, drafting J Davis, Matty I coming back, year two under JDR... so far, calling them a train wreck is being nice.

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm happy the offense has exceeded expectations. It had to in order to compete this year. Hopefully it can get a little more consistent, and less prone to TOs as the season progresses.

After last season, I thought the defense would take a step back this year, but I thought it would be mainly due to this year's competition, and likely not facing a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string QBs as they did last year. But I'll also admit, I bought the hype over the summer with the signing of W Jackson, drafting J Davis, Matty I coming back, year two under JDR... so far, calling them a train wreck is being nice.

I def bought into the hype. I mean, on paper...total upgrades. We knew the lb group would be the weak spot. I hoped we could get by with them, though as our line, and secondary would make up for the weak spot. But yea...its been absolutely abysmal so far. Being middle of the pack on defense would have been a little bit of a let down....but being among one of the worst in the entire league is just deflating. This is one of the worst years for morale as a fan that I personally have ever felt.
All I can do is laugh anymore. I have 0 hope for success in the near future. Within the next 2 years I can see a total overhaul (again) in coaching staff. And while it may be needed depending on how things go....it'll put us right back where we have been since like '99. I'm getting to the point where I'm really losing hope that we can ever turn this thing around.
I know I'm stating the obvious here, but we are one of the most poorly run sports franchises across all major sports...and I would dare to say of all time.
It really boggles the mind how the upper echelons of our management structure can be THIS incompetent for this long. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while....but not this squirrel.

[KI Skins Fan]

[QUOTE=OnceWeWereKings;1295429]I know I'm stating the obvious here, but we are one of the most poorly run sports franchises across all major sports...and I would dare to say of all time. It really boggles the mind how the upper echelons of our management structure can be THIS incompetent for this long. /QUOTE]

Really? There must be something (SNYDER!) that has remained the same (SNYDER!) throughout all this mess (SNYDER!).

[OnceWeWereKings]

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1295431]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

I know I'm stating the obvious here, but we are one of the most poorly run sports franchises across all major sports...and I would dare to say of all time. It really boggles the mind how the upper echelons of our management structure can be THIS incompetent for this long. /QUOTE]

Really? There must be something (SNYDER!) that has remained the same (SNYDER!) throughout all this mess (SNYDER!).

Absolutely, for sure.
It's just hard to believe that, even as shitty as he has made this organization that he hasn't at least gotten lucky at some point.
He is absolutely 100% unequivocally the problem.
I also don't understand how after 20+ years, and all the issues and misses that we have had.......how he hasn't learned anything except how to deflect more and shift blame more. It's maddening.

[calia]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

I def bought into the hype. I mean, on paper...total upgrades. We knew the lb group would be the weak spot. I hoped we could get by with them, though as our line, and secondary would make up for the weak spot. But yea...its been absolutely abysmal so far. Being middle of the pack on defense would have been a little bit of a let down....but being among one of the worst in the entire league is just deflating. This is one of the worst years for morale as a fan that I personally have ever felt.
All I can do is laugh anymore. I have 0 hope for success in the near future. Within the next 2 years I can see a total overhaul (again) in coaching staff. And while it may be needed depending on how things go....it'll put us right back where we have been since like '99. I'm getting to the point where I'm really losing hope that we can ever turn this thing around.
I know I'm stating the obvious here, but we are one of the most poorly run sports franchises across all major sports...and I would dare to say of all time.
It really boggles the mind how the upper echelons of our management structure can be THIS incompetent for this long. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while....but not this squirrel.

Not a squirrel. A rat. And he won’t find the acorn. Ever.


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm happy the offense has exceeded expectations. It had to in order to compete this year. Hopefully it can get a little more consistent, and less prone to TOs as the season progresses.

After last season, I thought the defense would take a step back this year, but I thought it would be mainly due to this year's competition, and likely not facing a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string QBs as they did last year. But I'll also admit, I bought the hype over the summer with the signing of W Jackson, drafting J Davis, Matty I coming back, year two under JDR... so far, calling them a train wreck is being nice.

Bought in hard because of those exact four things you mentioned and in that order. Maybe Matty I over JD. Not that u were listing them in order. Oh well. One of these years Chief. Just like it used to be.