Taylor Effing Heinicke

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I actually don't remember seeing him play without mistakes. They just weren't caught by the other team.

He was pretty damn flawless against the Super Bowl Champs last year and has had a couple good games this year. Point was he should be progressing but like almost everyone else under this regime he is regressing.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He was pretty damn flawless against the Super Bowl Champs last year and has had a couple good games this year. Point was he should be progressing but like almost everyone else under this regime he is regressing.

I like Heinicke - as a solid #2, but I wouldn't categorize any of his performances so far as flawless, or close to flawless. He definitely gives this team a chance. Can't say the same for the D.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I like Heinicke - as a solid #2, but I wouldn't categorize any of his performances so far as flawless, or close to flawless. He definitely gives this team a chance. Can't say the same for the D.

You don’t think he was awesome in that playoff game last year? I know it is only one game but he has still only started what 6 games including last year. He played good in three this year, and bad in three. Terrible actually. Anyway my confidence in him is waning week to week. I just cannot help wondering if good coaching would help his cause. But I agree - good back up.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You don’t think he was awesome in that playoff game last year? I know it is only one game but he has still only started what 6 games including last year. He played good in three this year, and bad in three. Terrible actually. Anyway my confidence in him is waning week to week. I just cannot help wondering if good coaching would help his cause. But I agree - good back up.

Fitz has been in the league forever and is the same basic player as Heinicke is now. Heinicke ought to have a higher ceiling if he is at all capable of growing and has coaches who can help him.

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[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You don’t think he was awesome in that playoff game last year? I know it is only one game but he has still only started what 6 games including last year. He played good in three this year, and bad in three. Terrible actually. Anyway my confidence in him is waning week to week. I just cannot help wondering if good coaching would help his cause. But I agree - good back up.

He didn't lose the playoff game (that was the defense again/still), but I wouldn't say he was awesome. 59% completion percentage, 78 QBR, 1 TD / 1 INT, ran for a TD. Pretty good... Actually good enough if the defense had not given up over 500 yards...

He has probably played good more than he's played bad. I am just not as enamored with him as others are.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

He didn't lose the playoff game (that was the defense again/still), but I wouldn't say he was awesome. 59% completion percentage, 78 QBR, 1 TD / 1 INT, ran for a TD. Pretty good... Actually good enough if the defense had not given up over 500 yards...

He has probably played good more than he's played bad. I am just not as enamored with him as others are.

Ever since that game our defense has been atrocious

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Ever since that game our defense has been atrocious

The defense was top 5 last year, but it was a top 5 defense built on a house of cards. They just got exposed for what they truly were in that game, and what they still are to this day.

B. A. D.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

He didn't lose the playoff game (that was the defense again/still), but I wouldn't say he was awesome. 59% completion percentage, 78 QBR, 1 TD / 1 INT, ran for a TD. Pretty good... Actually good enough if the defense had not given up over 500 yards...

He has probably played good more than he's played bad. I am just not as enamored with him as others are.

Stays do not always tell the story. Heineke balled the fuck out in that game. Kept play’s alive. And that was a fucking great defense he was playing. Believe this thread which is named Taylor effin Heineke was born from that game.
He was the only one who showed up for that game. We can call him a backup going forward no doubt. Call him limited in ability. But give the man that playoff game. Lol. He was awesome.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Stays do not always tell the story. Heineke balled the fuck out in that game. Kept play’s alive. And that was a fucking great defense he was playing. Believe this thread which is named Taylor effin Heineke was born from that game.
He was the only one who showed up for that game. We can call him a backup going forward no doubt. Call him limited in ability. But give the man that playoff game. Lol. He was awesome.

Nobody is taking away how he played in that game, a game we still lost by the way. Some people seem to hang on to that game like we won the SB or something. Very weird, but I guess when you're a bottom feeder of a team like this one fans are going to hold onto anything they can.

Also strikes me odd that some seem to be holding on to this idea TH can be more than he is with better coaching. Could he be better if we dug up Bill Walsh and Vince Lombardi? Yeah maybe a little I guess. In all likelihood though his limitations aren't going to allow him to be anything more than we've already seen.

At worst the guy has shown he belongs in the league as a backup, and he can carve out a nice career for himself for the next few years probably.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Nobody is taking away how he played in that game, a game we still lost by the way. Some people seem to hang on to that game like we won the SB or something. Very weird, but I guess when you're a bottom feeder of a team like this one fans are going to hold onto anything they can.

Also strikes me odd that some seem to be holding on to this idea TH can be more than he is with better coaching. Could he be better if we dug up Bill Walsh and Vince Lombardi? Yeah maybe a little I guess. In all likelihood though his limitations aren't going to allow him to be anything more than we've already seen.

At worst the guy has shown he belongs in the league as a backup, and he can carve out a nice career for himself for the next few years probably.

TH is one of the biggest case of Ashburn syndrome I've seen in years. Astounding.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

Nobody is taking away how he played in that game, a game we still lost by the way. Some people seem to hang on to that game like we won the SB or something. Very weird, but I guess when you're a bottom feeder of a team like this one fans are going to hold onto anything they can.

Also strikes me odd that some seem to be holding on to this idea TH can be more than he is with better coaching. Could he be better if we dug up Bill Walsh and Vince Lombardi? Yeah maybe a little I guess. In all likelihood though his limitations aren't going to allow him to be anything more than we've already seen.

At worst the guy has shown he belongs in the league as a backup, and he can carve out a nice career for himself for the next few years probably.

+1

From sleeping on his sister's couch to making millions as an NFL backup while getting to play the game he loves (just not as a starter) - it's not a bad life.

The arm thing - can't tell if you're talking about arm strength or accuracy. His inaccuracy is killing us - Brady doesn't have the best arm strength either but he knows where to place the ball. Heinicke seems to have a case of the jitters - it's mental with him. Not sure we want to give him the entire year to see if he can get past it.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

Nobody is taking away how he played in that game, a game we still lost by the way. Some people seem to hang on to that game like we won the SB or something. Very weird, but I guess when you're a bottom feeder of a team like this one fans are going to hold onto anything they can.

Also strikes me odd that some seem to be holding on to this idea TH can be more than he is with better coaching. Could he be better if we dug up Bill Walsh and Vince Lombardi? Yeah maybe a little I guess. In all likelihood though his limitations aren't going to allow him to be anything more than we've already seen.

At worst the guy has shown he belongs in the league as a backup, and he can carve out a nice career for himself for the next few years probably.

Totally agree actually. Personally I wasn’t or haven’t hung on to that game like it was anything just that I saw him ball out against an awesome defense in a pressure situation (first start and a playoff game) so I do hold onto the fact that he has it in him. Plus i just bought it up in reply to Chiefs comment. But as the weeks go by that game appears more and more to be a fluke and not the norm.
Im also worried about the quarterback class coming out. Dont wanna reach for someone in the first round.