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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

racism has been baked in to the very fabric of the United States and social justice actions need to be taken to counter it.

Let’s ignore the problem ^ and twist it so far down the rabbit hole of blame that it just goes away.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Let’s ignore the problem ^ and twist it so far down the rabbit hole of blame that it just goes away.

So you think the Critical Race Theory is right (it is a hypothesis). Racism is baked into the United States (In other words it can't be fixed)? You reject MLK's beliefs (CRT does)? Under the US due to how it was created, all white people are oppressors and all minorities are victims? Due to how the US was created Whites (as a group) will always come out ahead of any minority group? The later btw is what disproves the CRT hypothosis.

You believe those things?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

So you think the Critical Race Theory is right (it is a hypothesis). Racism is baked into the United States (In other words it can't be fixed)? You reject MLK's beliefs (CRT does)? Under the US due to how it was created, all white people are oppressors and all minorities are victims? Due to how the US was created Whites (as a group) will always come out ahead of any minority group? The later btw is what disproves the CRT hypothosis.

You believe those things?

Think I wanna get drunk tonight. It's been a long week.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mooby

Think I wanna get drunk tonight. It's been a long week.

Lot's of long weeks around these parts.

That's the route. I'm gonna get drunk and find an old Leslie Nielsen movie to watch.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

So you think the Critical Race Theory is right (it is a hypothesis). Racism is baked into the United States (In other words it can't be fixed)? You reject MLK's beliefs (CRT does)? Under the US due to how it was created, all white people are oppressors and all minorities are victims? Due to how the US was created Whites (as a group) will always come out ahead of any minority group? The later btw is what disproves the CRT hypothosis.

You believe those things?

Sounds like someone read the Rights Guide to CRT lol. Old tired nonsense. That is all such old tired nonsense.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Sounds like someone read the Rights Guide to CRT lol. Old tired nonsense. That is all such old tired nonsense.

You actually don't know what CRT is. I decided to post a source sympathetic to/supportive of CRT and bolded the areas that I raised in my previous post



This is an explanation from the American Bar Association
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/c...l-race-theory/

Principles of the CRT Practice
While recognizing the evolving and malleable nature of CRT, scholar Khiara Bridges outlines a few key tenets of CRT, including:

Recognition that race is not biologically real but is socially constructed and socially significant. It recognizes that science (as demonstrated in the Human Genome Project) refutes the idea of biological racial differences. According to scholars Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, race is the product of social thought and is not connected to biological reality.

Acknowledgement that racism is a normal feature of society and is embedded within systems and institutions, like the legal system, that replicate racial inequality. This dismisses the idea that racist incidents are aberrations but instead are manifestations of structural and systemic racism.
Rejection of popular understandings about racism, such as arguments that confine racism to a few “bad apples.” CRT recognizes that racism is codified in law, embedded in structures, and woven into public policy.

CRT rejects claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness.” CRT recognizes that it is the systemic nature of racism that bears primary responsibility for reproducing racial inequality.

Recognition of the relevance of people’s everyday lives to scholarship. This includes embracing the lived experiences of people of color, including those preserved through storytelling, and rejecting deficit-informed research that excludes the epistemologies of people of color.....

.....CRT transcends a Black/white racial binary and recognizes that racism has impacted the experiences of various people of color, including Latinx, Native Americans, and Asian Americans. As a result, different branches, including LatCrit, TribalCrit, and AsianCRT have emerged from CRT. These different branches seek to examine specific experiences of oppression.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

You actually don't know what CRT is. I decided to post a source sympathetic to/supportive of CRT and bolded the areas that I raised in my previous post



This is an explanation from the American Bar Association
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/c...l-race-theory/

Principles of the CRT Practice
While recognizing the evolving and malleable nature of CRT, scholar Khiara Bridges outlines a few key tenets of CRT, including:

Recognition that race is not biologically real but is socially constructed and socially significant. It recognizes that science (as demonstrated in the Human Genome Project) refutes the idea of biological racial differences. According to scholars Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, race is the product of social thought and is not connected to biological reality.

Acknowledgement that racism is a normal feature of society and is embedded within systems and institutions, like the legal system, that replicate racial inequality. This dismisses the idea that racist incidents are aberrations but instead are manifestations of structural and systemic racism.
Rejection of popular understandings about racism, such as arguments that confine racism to a few “bad apples.” CRT recognizes that racism is codified in law, embedded in structures, and woven into public policy.

CRT rejects claims of meritocracy or “colorblindness.” CRT recognizes that it is the systemic nature of racism that bears primary responsibility for reproducing racial inequality.

Recognition of the relevance of people’s everyday lives to scholarship. This includes embracing the lived experiences of people of color, including those preserved through storytelling, and rejecting deficit-informed research that excludes the epistemologies of people of color.....

.....CRT transcends a Black/white racial binary and recognizes that racism has impacted the experiences of various people of color, including Latinx, Native Americans, and Asian Americans. As a result, different branches, including LatCrit, TribalCrit, and AsianCRT have emerged from CRT. These different branches seek to examine specific experiences of oppression.

Yes you are correct. I have never done any research on CRT. The history. The intent. The spin the right puts on it. Nope. Never. Thank God you are here to set me on a path of knowledge and wisdom. I now see it from your perspective and am eternally grateful for your help.

All sarcasm aside, ive posted articles that retort every one of your points. Im not playing the circle game with politics anymore. Ill just beat myself in the head with a shoe in the morning and than go about my day.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes you are correct. I have never done any research on CRT. The history. The intent. The spin the right puts on it. Nope. Never. Thank God you are here to set me on a path of knowledge and wisdom. I now see it from your perspective and am eternally grateful for your help.

All sarcasm aside, ive posted articles that retort every one of your points. Im not playing the circle game with politics anymore. Ill just beat myself in the head with a shoe in the morning and than go about my day.

That wasn't an editorial article I posted. It was a lesson from a pro CRT source. ("rejects meritocracy and colorblindness" There is no getting around that - that is an explicit rejection of MLK teachings/goals.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

That wasn't an editorial article I posted. It was a lesson from a pro CRT source. ("rejects meritocracy and colorblindness" There is no getting around that - that is an explicit rejection of MLK teachings/goals.

Yes it is and there are a million articles I could post but you can find them too. U just dont want to. Lol

In a nut shell. King wanted to end racism, Not deny its existence. The whole MLK CRT thing is nothing more than political spin and tainted interpretation.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

That wasn't an editorial article I posted. It was a lesson from a pro CRT source. ("rejects meritocracy and colorblindness" There is no getting around that - that is an explicit rejection of MLK teachings/goals.

Anyone who says they don’t see color is lying.

The black tax in professional settings is real.

We all consciously and sub consciously make instantaneous opinions on others. Color of skin, age, clothing, what part of town we are in, type of car they are driving, hat or nicely combed hair …. Skin color is a big part of many factors we instantaneously analyze when we see someone.

A white person saying they didn’t have a minor pause when a black doctor walks into the room is lying.

A black person saying they didn’t have a minor pause when a black doctor walks into the room is lying.

Race and prejudice are natural human thoughts and feelings.

Before you neo conservatives get your feelings hurt … I think black people also pre judge and hold prejudices

If you think race isn’t a big factor in every minut detail of human interaction in every corner of the world … I think you’re not being honest