NFL Week 13

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Pats have thrown one pass all game long and are winning the game.

Watched the 4th quarter... Jones 2/3 passing. Amazing.

I was in the camp of "Belichick made Brady more that the opposite"...
I think the one thing the last 2 years have proven is everybody picking a side on that argument was wrong. It was just a matter of 2 GOATs meeting each other...

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Watched the 4th quarter... Jones 2/3 passing. Amazing.

I was in the camp of "Belichick made Brady more that the opposite"...
I think the one thing the last 2 years have proven is everybody picking a side on that argument was wrong. It was just a matter of 2 GOATs meeting each other...

While Brady is a GOAT, he hasn't done for Tampa what BB has done for the Patriots.

For example. Brady goes to a stacked Bucs offense that was rated 3rd in the league behind Jamies Winston's 30 ints. They also brought in AB, Fournette, and Gronk to add to it. Add that to the #6 defense in the NFL and it's a Super Bowl team in the making with or without Tom Brady. It's not like Brady took a below average offense and turned it into high octane. He simply made it better.

On the other hand. Look at what BB has done for the Patriots. Dude has them in 1st place with a rookie QB, and winning games with his QB throwing THREE fucking passes the entire game. There were two games early this year the Pats should have won so they should easily be 11-2.

If I have a choice between BB or Brady to start a team. It's not even close. BB will bring more to the team overall than Brady.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

While Brady is a GOAT, he hasn't done for Tampa what BB has done for the Patriots.

What else would you have liked him to do? I realize he had a good team around him in Tampa, but other than winning a superbowl with them Im not sure how else he could prove his worth to Tampa?
40 td’s, 12 int’s, 4,600 yards and 66 percent completions. Oh at age 44. How many coaches get a quarterback that plays at that level for 20 years? Give BB that same team, minus Brady and you think they win the Superbowl? Maybe. Maybe not. There were plenty of years Brady got it done in New England without a ton of weapons.

It is a combination of the greatest coach and greatest quarterback. You remove either from the equation and it isn’t the greatest dynasty.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Watched the 4th quarter... Jones 2/3 passing. Amazing.

I was in the camp of "Belichick made Brady more that the opposite"...
I think the one thing the last 2 years have proven is everybody picking a side on that argument was wrong. It was just a matter of 2 GOATs meeting each other...

Yup. Nobody made anybody. When you have the greatest coach and the greatest quarterback for 20 years you win several Superbowls. The end.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yup. Nobody made anybody. When you have the greatest coach and the greatest quarterback for 20 years you win several Superbowls. The end.

+1

MNF was discussing it last night - can't remember if it was the Peyton/Eli broadcast or the regular broadcast. But the jist was - BB loves to play matchups. He schemes as much as anybody to get the right matchups - whether it's on the d-line, lb's or back end he is always looking for the slightest advantage. I think that's an underrated aspect of his scheming that is a big reason why he's above so many other coaches. Probably also a factor in why his assistant coaches don't have much success when they leave NE - I don't think there are many that prepare on BB's level.