Portis Endorses T.O. Coming To Washington, Would You?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

Please look at my entire paragraph, not just a sentence taken out of context and maybe you will understand the point I was trying to make.

The bottom line in pro sports is winning, all this locker room happiness, and buddy buddy stuff is for high schools and colleges. When a team is winning everyone is happy and no spats come out of the locker room (Indy now). When a team is losing everybody is unhappy and looking for stuff to snipe about (philly this year). When TO is on a winning team he is fine (philly last year, SF a few years ago) so if the skins brought him here and they won TO would be just fine. The thing is if TO did not think the skins were real contenders he would not come here to begin with (like he did with Balt last year) so like you all think, it may not happen but I think it will be because TO says no to the skins, not the other way around.

But the sniping with TO started in the offseason, just after the Eagles made the Super Bowl for the first time in 25 years, so the bottom line for TO doesn't necessarily seem to be winning. Going into the season, the Eagles were legitimate SB contenders again. Their downward spiral began when TO started complaining about getting paid more.

Not to drop names, but when I spoke to Tony McGee about this whole notion of winning at all costs he told me that's just not going to happen in a Gibbs locker room. He has no inside info on whether they would actually pursue TO but he doesn't believe it's going to happen. Simply because what Gibbs, and I'm sure many if not all other coaches, preaches is knowing that when you sit in the locker room the person to each side of you is going to have your back win or lose. That you don't sell out your teammates, that you are there to pick them up when they're down and they're to cheer with them when they do well. Players don't win, teams win.

[irish]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

But the sniping with TO started in the offseason, just after the Eagles made the Super Bowl for the first time in 25 years, so the bottom line for TO doesn't necessarily seem to be winning. Going into the season, the Eagles were legitimate SB contenders again. Their downward spiral began when TO started complaining about getting paid more.

Not to drop names, but when I spoke to Tony McGee about this whole notion of winning at all costs he told me that's just not going to happen in a Gibbs locker room. He has no inside info on whether they would actually pursue TO but he doesn't believe it's going to happen. Simply because what Gibbs, and I'm sure many if not all other coaches, preaches is knowing that when you sit in the locker room the person to each side of you is going to have your back win or lose. That you don't sell out your teammates, that you are there to pick them up when they're down and they're to cheer with them when they do well. Players don't win, teams win.

The way I saw it, TO complained, the team suffered some key injuries that caused them to start losing, and the downward spiral started and TOs complaints went way up. So to me the downward spiral started when the injuries mounted causing the team to start losing.

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Originally Posted by irish

The way I saw it, TO complained, the team suffered some key injuries that caused them to start losing, and the downward spiral started and TOs complaints went way up. So to me the downward spiral started when the injuries mounted causing the team to start losing.

Fair enough. Let me ask you this then, when our backs were to the wall after having lost 3 in a row and we were about to face the Rams how do you think TO would have acted if he were a Redskin? Do you think he would have been a positive for this team? Or let's say it was TO, not Moss, that was with us this year. And his numbers were great to begin with but had recently been going down, do you think he would handle it the same way Moss has?

[irish]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Fair enough. Let me ask you this then, when our backs were to the wall after having lost 3 in a row and we were about to face the Rams how do you think TO would have acted if he were a Redskin? Do you think he would have been a positive for this team? Or let's say it was TO, not Moss, that was with us this year. And his numbers were great to begin with but had recently been going down, do you think he would handle it the same way Moss has?

No not the same as Moss. But there is no way TO would have come here because the redskins are not a championship contender and he would only go to a championship contender (thats why he went to philly instead of balt). Like I said above, I think TO would reject any offer the skins make because even next year they are not contenders for the championship. But lets say TO was here and if this team had TO I dont think they would have lost those 3 in a row and would I think only have 1 or 2 losses now and be cruising to the playoffs instead of hanging on by a thread.

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Fair enough. Let me ask you this then, when our backs were to the wall after having lost 3 in a row and we were about to face the Rams how do you think TO would have acted if he were a Redskin? Do you think he would have been a positive for this team? Or let's say it was TO, not Moss, that was with us this year. And his numbers were great to begin with but had recently been going down, do you think he would handle it the same way Moss has?

Good Point, except we wouldn't had lost 3 games in a row with T.O., period

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by wewhite3

Good Point, except we wouldn't had lost 3 games in a row with T.O., period

you don' know that, the skins could lose 3 or more games in a row due to any number of cercumstances. it's situations or scenarios like that that coaches have to be prepared for by having the right kind of players and coaches who are capable of handling and staying positive during such situations.

t.o clearly is not capable of handling or staying positive in a situation such as that.

gibbs would never sign t.o or any player like him.

[ST21]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

you don' know that, the skins could lose 3 or more games in a row due to any number of cercumstances. it's situations or scenarios like that that coaches have to be prepared for by having the right kind of players and coaches who are capable of handling and staying positive during such situations.

t.o clearly is not capable of handling or staying positive in a situation such as that.

gibbs would never sign t.o or any player like him.

Thats right, you don't know....but thats why we have these discussions....all about debate wheather or wheather not