Chaos at the Capitol: New thread edition

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

What he should have said was “anyone who lied to the American people about the severity of the virus, called it a hoax, and perpetuated vaccine hesitancy should not remain President of the United States”.

Bottom line is that Biden has done everything he could. You can only lead the horse to water Chico you cannot make it drink. A shit ton of the horses that wont drink are Maga people. What is Biden supposed to do about that? The damage was done under the last presidency. You know this to be true.

That being said the death toll ticker for 2020 started three months in to the year.

Again man, Trump lied, fumbled the vaccine rollout, and called it a hoax. Biden got the vaccines rolled out and did not lie about it or call it a hoax which greatly lended to the hesitancy. There is simply no comparison.

How is Biden supposed to make people take the shots Chico? Trump could have been honest about Covid, and told people to get their shots. He would still be President. I can point to things Trump did that were wrong. You cannot point to anything other than a death toll related to hesitancy which has zero to do with Biden.

Take the L.

You guys are something else, “what is Biden suppose to do” is now the defense after last year hearing libs and media blaming Trump for covid spread and death. You guys are ridiculous

Biden was handed 3 vaccines and a pace of shots 950k a day when he took office. The J&J paused caused vaccine hesitation across the board, that’s a proven fact. If he would have prioritized home testing, Monoclonal antibodies therapy against the delta variant he could have saved lives. He instead politicized his shots in arm priority…which has failed.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You guys are something else, “what is Biden suppose to do” is now the defense after last year hearing libs and media blaming Trump for covid spread and death. You guys are ridiculous

Biden was handed 3 vaccines and a pace of shots 950k a day when he took office. The J&J paused caused vaccine hesitation across the board, that’s a proven fact. If he would have prioritized home testing, Monoclonal antibodies therapy against the delta variant he could have saved lives. He instead politicized his shots in arm priority…which has failed.

Wow. You are just in denial bro. The ONLY REASON THIS THING IS HERE IS VACCINE HESITANCY AND A HUGE CHUNK OF THAT IS YOUR MAGA ARMY. Absolutely insane that you do not see that. Insane.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You guys are something else, “what is Biden suppose to do” is now the defense after last year hearing libs and media blaming Trump for covid spread and death. You guys are ridiculous

Biden was handed 3 vaccines and a pace of shots 950k a day when he took office. The J&J paused caused vaccine hesitation across the board, that’s a proven fact. If he would have prioritized home testing, Monoclonal antibodies therapy against the delta variant he could have saved lives. He instead politicized his shots in arm priority…which has failed.

I think the better question is:

"Why has Biden failed to convince a bunch of conservatives to take a vaccine for a virus that the conservative media has denounced as a liberal hoax from the start"

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

I think the better question is:

"Why has Biden failed to convince a bunch of conservatives to take a vaccine for a virus that the conservative media has denounced as a liberal hoax from the start"

But Mooby if Biden made at home testing a priority they would all take one and this would magically go away!

At home testing should be prioritized over shots in arms. LOLOL. That is awesome Chico. Im sure every anti vaxx conspiracy nut job would stay home lol. Even if they did how the hell does that do anything? They will be right back out there after. Shots in arms buddy. It is thee only way. How am I explaining this to a grown man?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

I think the better question is:

"Why has Biden failed to convince a bunch of conservatives to take a vaccine for a virus that the conservative media has denounced as a liberal hoax from the start"

Utter bullshit Mooby. First off your premise is incorrect…you need to check the vaccine data. Minority groups other than Asian and American Indian lead the pack in not getting vaccinated. Also when grouping by ages, people under 30 lead the way in not getting vaccinated…data has found this group was responsible for covid spread during the delta variant.

Go re read my points again…but Biden has failed with covid. He said he would unite the country..
Another fail

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Utter bullshit Mooby. First off your premise is incorrect…you need to check the vaccine data. Minority groups other than Asian and American Indian lead the pack in not getting vaccinated. Also when grouping by ages, people under 30 lead the way in not getting vaccinated…data has found this group was responsible for covid spread during the delta variant.

Go re read my points again…but Biden has failed with covid. He said he would unite the country..
Another fail

You think unvaccinated minorities are the bigger problem than the entire Trump-worshipping conservative population that fell for the "covid is a hoax/the flu is more dangerous" theory?

I ain't denying unvaxxed minorities exist because I work with a couple of them - but they are definitely not outnumbering the heavily pro-Trump crowd I work with that started threatening to quit when the county announced their vaccine-or-weekly test mandate.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

You think unvaccinated minorities are the bigger problem than the entire Trump-worshipping conservative population that fell for the "covid is a hoax/the flu is more dangerous" theory?

I ain't denying they exist because I work with a couple of them - but they are definitely not outnumbering the heavily pro-Trump crowd I work with that started threatening to quit when the county announced their vaccine-or-weekly test mandate.

Them with the liberal leaning 18-30 year olds, yes I do. The most vaccinated groups are over 55 year old GOP leaning folks.

It’s just really interesting you are gonna try to parse this with a narrative which is incorrect.

Let me know if you need to rehash the media’s “flu is worse than covid “ headlines when this started or Kamala bimbo Harris and Joy Reid anti-vaxx social media posts when Trump developed the vaccine. These conservative media types are the worst, right?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Them with the liberal leaning 18-30 year olds, yes I do. The most vaccinated groups are over 55 year old GOP leaning folks.

It’s just really interesting you are gonna try to parse this with a narrative which is incorrect.

Let me know if you need to rehash the media’s “flu is worse than covid “ headlines when this started or Kamala bimbo Harris and Joy Reid anti-vaxx social media posts when Trump developed the vaccine. These conservative media types are the worst, right?

Which MSM outlet front-paged "the flu is worse than covid" theory before it started?

Also I agree with you - when Trump was single-handedly trying to take credit for the vaccines being rushed to market I was skeptical too - as many libs were because Trump is notorious for ignoring any law or precedent that stands in his way. If he ordered Pfizer/Moderna or anybody to skip steps or do anything inherently dangerous so he could take credit I would've been highly skeptical.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Utter bullshit Mooby. First off your premise is incorrect…you need to check the vaccine data. Minority groups other than Asian and American Indian lead the pack in not getting vaccinated. Also when grouping by ages, people under 30 lead the way in not getting vaccinated…data has found this group was responsible for covid spread during the delta variant.

Go re read my points again…but Biden has failed with covid. He said he would unite the country..
Another fail

Seriously , you're dumb as a box of rocks .

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/08/b...d-america.html

Covid Deaths Skew Higher Than Ever In Red States
The New York Times reports on disparities in covid deaths — with the gap between highly-vaccinated states (which tend to be Democratic) versus less-vaccinated states (which tend to be Republican) growing faster than ever over the last month. Vaccination exemptions and hesitancy are also in the news.

The New York Times: U.S. Covid Deaths Get Even Redder
The brief version: The gap in Covid’s death toll between red and blue America has grown faster over the past month than at any previous point. In October, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened. Some conservative writers have tried to claim that the gap may stem from regional differences in weather or age, but those arguments fall apart under scrutiny. (If weather or age were a major reason, the pattern would have begun to appear last year.) The true explanation is straightforward: The vaccines are remarkably effective at preventing severe Covid, and almost 40 percent of Republican adults remain unvaccinated, compared with about 10 percent of Democratic adults. (Leonhardt, 11/8)