Name Reveal 2.2.22

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I like warthogs. It is unique has ties to the Redskins for those that need that and I like the connection to the rugby team that was in DC.

Redtails not bad either.

I would also embrace something so brazingly stupid that is makes me to an Old School Yes!

I actually like Redtails as I have huge respect for the Tuskegee Airmen-I intentionally took my son to an event to meet one of them because I wanted him to see the embodiment of service, courage, and unselfishness, especially under extreme conditions.

I just fear that when we are bad- and history shows we pretty much always will be- then other fans are going to use it against us.

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by JackLord

I actually like Redtails as I have huge respect for the Tuskegee Airmen-I intentionally took my son to an event to meet one of them because I wanted him to see the embodiment of service, courage, and unselfishness, especially under extreme conditions.

I just fear that when we are bad- and history shows we pretty much always will be- then other fans are going to use it against us.

to be fair, having Wart in the name wouldn't be any better

Regardless, the opposing team will find a way to make fun.

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this is actually a really interested twitter thread if anyones interested

https://twitter.com/JoshGerben/statu...71124242681862

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Swarley

to be fair, having Wart in the name wouldn't be any better



Regardless, the opposing team will find a way to make fun.



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this is actually a really interested twitter thread if anyones interested



https://twitter.com/JoshGerben/statu...71124242681862

Super interesting info in there ! Thanks a lot.

For those who haven't clicked the link, basically there's a convention (actually called the Paris Convention, cocorico !) that allows you to file a trademark in any of 178 countries and still have priority at the first application date if you file in another country within 6 months.
And some of these countries don't allow online search.

So it's a near certainty that somewhere in a tiny unknown country lies the trademark to the next name of this franchise.

Doesn't give us any intel concerning this case, but quite fascinating IMO.

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[JackLord]

So nobody liked Redhawks? Really?

https://wallpapernfl.com/washington-...llpapers-7706/

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by JackLord

So nobody liked Redhawks? Really?

https://wallpapernfl.com/washington-...llpapers-7706/

Ummm....I do! I'd prefer this much more over Admirals, Commanders, Brigade, Generals or any of those type names.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by JackLord

So nobody liked Redhawks? Really?

https://wallpapernfl.com/washington-...llpapers-7706/

If Minny going to be pissey about Wolves(NBA), I am damn sure Atlanta(NFL) isn't going let us use Redhawks

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by mredskins

If Minny going to be pissey about Wolves(NBA), I am damn sure Atlanta(NFL) isn't going let us use Redhawks

Neither has a case.

[MTK]

Don't we have enough birds in the league anyway? Also I think they want to stay away from anything that could be possibly misconstrued as racist, now or in the future. So that means no to any colors in the name.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by MTK

Don't we have enough birds in the league anyway? Also I think they want to stay away from anything that could be possibly misconstrued as racist, now or in the future. So that means no to any colors in the name.

I was unaware that there was some kind of quota in the NFL for bird names. 5 of 32 does not strike me as excessive.

As to your second point, it took some very 'magical' thinking to state Redskins was a racist name. But sillier notions have prevailed, humans are imperfect and prone to hysteria, and this is where we are.

But to think that anyone could seriously state that Redhawk is racist is going way beyond magical thinking and deep into the realm of absolute stupidity.

And, as I have state over and over, there is precedent and those that preceded us have offered help:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...on-name-issue/

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by MTK

Don't we have enough birds in the league anyway? Also I think they want to stay away from anything that could be possibly misconstrued as racist, now or in the future. So that means no to any colors in the name.

Is that possible in today's world? The OK sigh is now construed as racist so I imagine nothing can't be at some point.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Is that possible in today's world? The OK sigh is now construed as racist so I imagine nothing can't be at some point.

I don't think the OK sign is construed as racist. I think it was appropriated by racists IMO there is a difference. That being said if a team logo started showing up as the gear of choice by hate groups then I would suspect some type of change by that team. (note that is not the case with the Redskins)

[MTK]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Is that possible in today's world? The OK sigh is now construed as racist so I imagine nothing can't be at some point.

Now we're really going down the rabbit hole

I think they just want to avoid any possible connotation to skin color, that's all

[irish]

Interesting take by Jay.
https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/...jamL2cV5UtyJVs

[MTK]

Was it really "magical" though? I mean, an expansion team starting up today wouldn't touch the name Redskins. In order to future proof the name, I think avoiding colors in the name is the smart move.

Either way, that issue is over and done for me. Time to move forward.

I think Commanders makes the most sense. It can tie into the military as well as a nod to politics in DC. It's generic and not offensive even with the most magical of thinking.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by MTK

Was it really "magical" though? I mean, an expansion team starting up today wouldn't touch the name Redskins. In order to future proof the name, I think avoiding colors in the name is the smart move.

Either way, that issue is over and done for me. Time to move forward.

I think Commanders makes the most sense. It can tie into the military as well as a nod to politics in DC. It's generic and not offensive even with the most magical of thinking.

Magical if not delusional. The indigenous peoples of the Americas do not have red colored skin. I would think that obvious, but there's that magical thinking again.

We are moving forward. We are not discussing bringing Redskins back. We are discussing what would be the best name and that is where you and I diverge radically.

I favor something that keys in on continuity and history. Something that can retain most of our logos, our fight song, and similar. The advantage to that is we move forward without completely jettisoning the past. The change is minor, nontraumatic, and gets us well away from the woke's crosshairs.

You favor a complete makeover from top to bottom. You are getting an NFL expansion team in all but name (pun intended). The only link to the past will be .... <drum roll> .... Daniel Snyder. In essence, you will be rooting for a team with a USFL sounding name owned by a scuzz. Frankly, I do not see any appeal in that.

Now, don't get me wrong. If you are cool with that, more power to you. But imho if we are getting a new team, why not choose a new team like Green Bay which is run by people of a serious nature?