Bauman, Russell, Betts: Wasted Picks?

[offiss]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Flat out...Ladell Betts is a bust. I've never seen a supposed power back never break a tackle in his NFL career...lol. I mean seriously, he does well to find space, but I've never once seen him break, a tackle or even so much as move a pile forward. He's wack.

Bauman...I don't really know.

Russel...I think he'll be out of the league after training camp

Jacobs had a terrible rookie campaign and I'll be surprised if he makes the team this year.

I have to say jdlea, I really diagree on both Bett's and Jacob's, in his rookie year Bett's was breaking tackles every time he touched the ball, in fact he was drawing comparison's to S. Davis for his ability to step out of tackles without slowing down, he's been stuck under SS for 2 year's and had some unfortuanate injuries which have slowed him, he will be a very good back, unfortuantly he now has Portis in front of him, so eventually it will be for someone else, What was so terrible about Jacob's rookie year? You do know he had a freak injury? And aware of how much that can set a rookie back? Especially in SS's chaotic world of offense, and I will take all bet's that taylor makes the team this year, the kid is highly motivated and is one of the hardest worker's you will find, as well as he is all buisness, he is about succeeding in the NFL and doing whatever it takes to get there, I would be surprised if he wasen't the #2 reciever before the first 4 games are over, he's going to leave Gardner in the dust.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by offiss

I have to say jdlea, I really diagree on both Bett's and Jacob's, in his rookie year Bett's was breaking tackles every time he touched the ball, in fact he was drawing comparison's to S. Davis for his ability to step out of tackles without slowing down, he's been stuck under SS for 2 year's and had some unfortuanate injuries which have slowed him, he will be a very good back, unfortuantly he now has Portis in front of him, so eventually it will be for someone else, What was so terrible about Jacob's rookie year? You do know he had a freak injury? And aware of how much that can set a rookie back? Especially in SS's chaotic world of offense, and I will take all bet's that taylor makes the team this year, the kid is highly motivated and is one of the hardest worker's you will find, as well as he is all buisness, he is about succeeding in the NFL and doing whatever it takes to get there, I would be surprised if he wasen't the #2 reciever before the first 4 games are over, he's going to leave Gardner in the dust.

I have to say Offiss, I completely and respectfully disagree with you. Even despite his injury, Jacobs last season played in 4 regular season games. He caught a whopping 3 receptions. This despite playing in an offense geared to pass first and run second. This is not good for our top draft pick. The point of this thread was wasted picks and what pissed me off about this wasted pick is U of Florida has a reputation around the league that it's recievers that are drafted high do not do well, because of their chuck and duck system. The Redskins ignored this when they could have drafted safety Mike Doss or WR Anquan Boldin who had great rookie seasons. They did not need years to adjust, unlike Betts and Jacobs. Doss was in on 101 tackles and helped his team get one games from the Superbowl.
Our greatest draft need in 2003, like this year, is defense. But Snyder and Cerrato like to draft offensive skill players.
Regarding the injuries to Betts and Jacobs, I feel some players are more fragile than others. Some players get hurt all the time, like Trung Canidate and (during his redskins career) Ladell Betts. I don't care how much talent a guy has, if he only plays 6-9 games a year, it is not worth it.
Regardind Betts "breaking tackles evertime he touched the ball", I am not sure which L. Betts I watched, because he is good , but not that good.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I have to say Offiss, I completely and respectfully disagree with you. Even despite his injury, Jacobs last season played in 4 regular season games. He caught a whopping 3 receptions. This despite playing in an offense geared to pass first and run second. This is not good for our top draft pick. The point of this thread was wasted picks and what pissed me off about this wasted pick is U of Florida has a reputation around the league that it's recievers that are drafted high do not do well, because of their chuck and duck system. The Redskins ignored this when they could have drafted safety Mike Doss or WR Anquan Boldin who had great rookie seasons. They did not need years to adjust, unlike Betts and Jacobs. Doss was in on 101 tackles and helped his team get one games from the Superbowl.
Our greatest draft need in 2003, like this year, is defense. But Snyder and Cerrato like to draft offensive skill players.
Regarding the injuries to Betts and Jacobs, I feel some players are more fragile than others. Some players get hurt all the time, like Trung Canidate and (during his redskins career) Ladell Betts. I don't care how much talent a guy has, if he only plays 6-9 games a year, it is not worth it.
Regardind Betts "breaking tackles evertime he touched the ball", I am not sure which L. Betts I watched, because he is good , but not that good.

Well at least I am getting some respect DW thank you! :thumb: here's the thing, what reciever excelled in SS offense? None! The QB was to busy getting cremated every pass play, but if you saw 2 of his 3 catches you could make a case that he made 2 of the most difficult catches of any reciever on our team last year, I personally didn't wan't to draft him as well, for the same reason's you presented, and I also wanted Doss, but Doss isn't a world beater, but he will probably be better than what we had last year, You also have to take into account that not taking Doss really opened the door for us to take taylor, who will be an absolute monster for us, and will make Doss look like a nobody, Anquan? Who new? How many other team's passed on him before Arizona selected him? They got lucky, good job by Arizona, but that doesn't mean we did a bad job with that, some times a player slip's under the radar, nobody I know of was pushing for the guy, as for Jacob's I have no doubt in my mind he will be outstanding for us, he's a Gibb's kind of guy, good charactor and hard worker, I think we will be the ones who got lucky with a Florida pick.

Respectfully submitted on this day 5/20/04 By Douglas C. Niedermier sergent of arm's.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by offiss

....I personally didn't wan't to draft him (Taylor Jacobs) as well, for the same reason's you presented, and I also wanted Doss, but Doss isn't a world beater, but he will probably be better than what we had last year, You also have to take into account that not taking Doss really opened the door for us to take taylor, who will be an absolute monster for us....
Respectfully submitted on this day 5/20/04 By Douglas C. Niedermier sergent of arm's.

We could have Doss and Sean Taylor both. We could have been set at the safety position for many years. Plus Doss is making less than what we are paying Matt Bowen. We would have saved money on the Salary cap as well as upgrading the safety position.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

We could have Doss and Sean Taylor both. We could have been set at the safety position for many years. Plus Doss is making less than what we are paying Matt Bowen. We would have saved money on the Salary cap as well as upgrading the safety position.

Rest assured you wouldn't be tooting Doss's horn if he played for us last year, with Edward's running the D, we would be yelling bust right now. It's over and done with, and I think thing's are going to work out for the best.