How likely is it Ron and the front office will pursue Aaron Rogers?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Going to strongly disagree if you're talking about trading away something like two firsts and Daron Payne, for example.

If that trade gets WFT to a Super Bowl then nobody will care who was traded. Payne isn't getting a team to the SB, a QB is.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

Rodgers on probably half or more teams in the league makes them SB contenders. If he was on this team this year, he probably would have counted for at least 3 more wins in my opinion.

It's a win now league. Nobody would give us a better shot right now.

Agree three more wins sounds about right for Aaron. But that kind of makes my point: we would have been 10-7. Not at the level of the Rams, not at the level of GB this year with Rodgers, not at the level of Dallas, and not at the level of TB even though we happened to catch them at the right time this year and beat them.

We've got more work to do than just insert a QB. We need a QB that can be here in 2023 and 2024 because we're more likely to make the run then than we are in 2022.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Agree three more wins sounds about right for Aaron. But that kind of makes my point: we would have been 10-7. Not at the level of the Rams, not at the level of GB this year with Rodgers, not at the level of Dallas, and not at the level of TB even though we happened to catch them at the right time this year and beat them.

We've got more work to do than just insert a QB. We need a QB that can be here in 2023 and 2024 because we're more likely to make the run then than we are in 2022.

I'm not talking about AR just for next year, I think anyone going after him is going to expect him to play for at least another 2-3 years.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm not talking about AR just for next year, I think anyone going after him is going to expect him to play for at least another 2-3 years.

Exactly, nobody is signing him to a one year deal because he wont do a one year deal.

[EdmundDorf]

Question is how long will AR play before he retires if he finds himself somewhere where he feels he cannot win. I think that fuse is fairly short. Any any resources you use to trade for him are lost. It is all academic as he will not want to come to Washington.

[MTK]

I'd be willing to gamble on AR playing another 2-3 years at a very high level. He just had another MVP caliber season. He hasn't shown any signs of falling off a cliff.

[MTK]

If Brady hangs it up why is TB looking at 10 years of cleanup?

After what we've been through the last 30 years, I'd take one more SB win even if it meant we go right back in the tank. I just want to see one more championship in my lifetime.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by MTK

If Brady hangs it up why is TB looking at 10 years of cleanup?

After what we've been through the last 30 years, I'd take one more SB win even if it meant we go right back in the tank. I just want to see one more championship in my lifetime.

I think TB even if it took 10 years to clean up would think it was well worth it. SB wins don't come around all that often even for good teams.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

If Brady hangs it up why is TB looking at 10 years of cleanup?

After what we've been through the last 30 years, I'd take one more SB win even if it meant we go right back in the tank. I just want to see one more championship in my lifetime.

We wouldn't win in 2022 with Aaron Rodgers. But I've said that already.

And then we'd have a reload and a coaching change on our hands, with few first round picks on the roster.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

We wouldn't win in 2022 with Aaron Rodgers. But I've said that already.

And then we'd have a reload and a coaching change on our hands, with few first round picks on the roster.

Why would there be a coaching change after next year? Is AR coming here and playing so badly Ron gets canned?

I'm just going to peace out on this AR stuff for now. I get it, the chance of him choosing to come here is slim to none so why bother.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

We wouldn't win in 2022 with Aaron Rodgers. But I've said that already.

And then we'd have a reload and a coaching change on our hands, with few first round picks on the roster.

If Heinicke is the QB next year I see another coaching change and reload in 2023.

Bottom line in all this is WFT (like a lot of other teams) needs a legit QB, and they have to get him however they can and they need to keep trying until they hit on one.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

We wouldn't win in 2022 with Aaron Rodgers. But I've said that already.

And then we'd have a reload and a coaching change on our hands, with few first round picks on the roster.

Idk Schneed.

Look at our schedule results.
Chargers - he makes a winning difference.
Giants - we won
Buffalo - L probably still but who knows if we come out stronger with the best quarterback play instead of the worst.
Atl - we won
NO - he makes a winning difference
KC - game was tight until late - but give us the L
GB - he wins
Denver - we absolutely win
TB - we won
Car- we won
Seattle - we won
LV - we won
Dallas - he makes a winning difference
Philly - he makes a winning difference
Dallas - give us the L, though at that point we were giving up
Philly - he makes a winning difference
Giants - we won

Conjecture ? Sure. But it is Aaron fucking Rodgers vs scrubs. If he was our quarterback this year we win 13 games. Don’t underestimate what he could do for us.

And u can take Davis, 2022’s first rounder who obviously had nothing to do with 2021, and Payne off the team and it dont change a thing. In other words if we had traded two first rounders and Payne for AR prior to 2021 - we win 13 games. Maybe more if you look at each individual game we played in 2021.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Idk Schneed.

Look at our schedule results.
Chargers - he makes a winning difference.
Giants - we won
Buffalo - L probably still but who knows if we come out stronger with the best quarterback play instead of the worst.
Atl - we won
NO - he makes a winning difference
KC - game was tight until late - but give us the L
GB - he wins
Denver - we absolutely win
TB - we won
Car- we won
Seattle - we won
LV - we won
Dallas - he makes a winning difference
Philly - he makes a winning difference
Dallas - give us the L, though at that point we were giving up
Philly - he makes a winning difference
Giants - we won

Conjecture ? Sure. But it is Aaron fucking Rodgers vs scrubs. If he was our quarterback this year we win 13 games. Don’t underestimate what he could do for us.

And u can take Davis, 2022’s first rounder who obviously had nothing to do with 2021, and Payne off the team and it dont change a thing. In other words if we had traded two first rounders and Payne for AR prior to 2021 - we win 13 games. Maybe more if you look at each individual game we played in 2021.

You have a 6 win improvement. It's just unreasonable.

Your overall point stands though, he's Aaron Rodgers, he's a HOF player, and we'd be immediately better.

But you've said nothing to refute my point. If you apply your same optimistic view of the difference Rodgers would make, but you substitute in Deshaun Watson or Russell Wilson, how much different are your projected results?

And they wouldn't be 39 going on retired. That's my entire point. The fact that Aaron Rodgers is great is not at all debatable. And neither is the fact that he's fucking old.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You have a 6 win improvement. It's just unreasonable.

Your overall point stands though, he's Aaron Rodgers, he's a HOF player, and we'd be immediately better.

But you've said nothing to refute my point. If you apply your same optimistic view of the difference Rodgers would make, but you substitute in Deshaun Watson or Russell Wilson, how much different are your projected results?

And they wouldn't be 39 going on retired. That's my entire point. The fact that Aaron Rodgers is great is not at all debatable. And neither is the fact that he's fucking old.

Your point I am refuting is “we dont win in 2022 with AR”. Not true.

Tell me which of those 6 games you don’t think we win with Rodgers instead of Taylor or Godfrey last year if it is so unreasonable. We are talking about going from worst to first with quarterback play - 6 game improvement is completely in the realm of reason.

He may be 39, but he is playing at an mvp level. He has 3-4 more great years in him.

That being said Ill take Russ or Watson in a heartbeat too, and I don’t think AR would come here anyway. Just saying if he did we would have been instant SB contenders last year or next year, or the year after that. Ill take one and never worry about my expensive, aged , gave up the farm quarterback ever for one second.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Man, well when you put it that way...