How likely is it Ron and the front office will pursue Aaron Rogers?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think Aaron Rodgers only makes sense if you think getting him makes us a SB contender this season. I don't. We'd certainly be better but I don't think we're that close. Nevermind the fact that he'd never see this as his best option.

I'd go a different direction. Need a guy you can keep for 3 years or more. Rodgers is a guy you maybe could get a few years from, but you could also end up with just one year. He's up there.

Rodgers on probably half or more teams in the league makes them SB contenders. If he was on this team this year, he probably would have counted for at least 3 more wins in my opinion.

It's a win now league. Nobody would give us a better shot right now.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

Rodgers on probably half or more teams in the league makes them SB contenders. If he was on this team this year, he probably would have counted for at least 3 more wins in my opinion.

It's a win now league. Nobody would give us a better shot right now.

Exactly. It a week to week, year to year league. Worrying about 3 years from now isn't realistic in the modern NFL.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

Exactly. It a week to week, year to year league. Worrying about 3 years from now isn't realistic in the modern NFL.

Going to strongly disagree if you're talking about trading away something like two firsts and Daron Payne, for example.

[SFREDSKIN]

Here's a good article from Michael Silver who is good friends with Ron from his days at Cal.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michael...105707409.html

[Chief X_Phackter]

Trading two 1st round picks and a guy like Daron Payne would be a small price to pay if it put the team in SB contention for the next three or more years. At that point, nobody's going to miss them, especially if they draft well in rounds 2-7.

The Rams haven't had a 1st round pick since 2016, and they have only missed the playoffs once since then, with a 5-2 postseason record.

All this team needs is a QB, and they could have the same success or better.

I'll take that.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Here's a good article from Michael Silver who is good friends with Ron from his days at Cal.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/michael...105707409.html

He's also a freelance writer for the WFT.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Going to strongly disagree if you're talking about trading away something like two firsts and Daron Payne, for example.

Okay .. your point is valid IF we hit on those first rounders and find a way to keep all those D line players .. I would trade Davis ( last year first) and this years first and let Payne walk for Rodgers .. I see your point but I’m not confident we hit home runs on our picks .. Davis play was underachieving and Truth is so was Chase .. would you right now rather have Davis and Young or Rogers ?

[irish]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Okay .. your point is valid IF we hit on those first rounders and find a way to keep all those D line players .. I would trade Davis ( last year first) and this years first and let Payne walk for Rodgers .. I see your point but I’m not confident we hit home runs on our picks .. Davis play was underachieving and Truth is so was Chase .. would you right now rather have Davis and Young or Rogers ?

Its a no brainer, Rogers. Davis and Young aren't taking this team to the Super Bowl. Rogers can.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

Its a no brainer, Rogers. Davis and Young aren't taking this team to the Super Bowl. Rogers can.

So that's ultimately where you and I fundamentally disagree. If you think Aaron Rodgers could get this team to a Super Bowl in 2022 then I can see why you'd think going for this makes sense.

I just don't see how you can conclude that. You'd have Rodgers sitting on the books for, call it $30M, which means you'd need to cut Landon Collins to make room for a decent MLB in free agency. And you wouldn't have your 1st rounder this year or next year to fill other holes, which include WR, guard, safety and corner.

We don't have as much cap space as everyone seems to think, and I chuckle at the people like Chico who say the cap basically isn't a real issue. We have $34M of available cap space after signing Leno. And the following players would eat into that available space if we resign them:

- Bobby McCain
- Cornelius Lucas
- JD McKissic
- Adam Humphries
- Ricky Seals Jones
- Joey Slye
- Cam Sims
- Brandon Scherff (bye, we'll get a cheaper version)

So put Rodgers on at $30M and suddenly you need to drop Landon and probably extend Ereck Flowers to get his $10M cap number down, just so you can try to resign some of the guys above and fit in a MLB. Because remember, if you don't resign the guys above or find an alternative for them, then you've got significant roster holes.

Everyone's drunk over a QB. But we're not that close. Don't get it twisted, I want us to acquire a QB. I just don't want a 38 year old one.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So that's ultimately where you and I fundamentally disagree. If you think Aaron Rodgers could get this team to a Super Bowl in 2022 then I can see why you'd think going for this makes sense.

I just don't see how you can conclude that. You'd have Rodgers sitting on the books for, call it $30M, which means you'd need to cut Landon Collins to make room for a decent MLB in free agency. And you wouldn't have your 1st rounder this year or next year to fill other holes, which include WR, guard, safety and corner.

We don't have as much cap space as everyone seems to think, and I chuckle at the people like Chico who say the cap basically isn't a real issue. We have $34M of available cap space after signing Leno. And the following players would eat into that available space if we resign them:

- Bobby McCain
- Cornelius Lucas
- JD McKissic
- Adam Humphries
- Ricky Seals Jones
- Joey Slye
- Cam Sims
- Brandon Scherff (bye, we'll get a cheaper version)

So put Rodgers on at $30M and suddenly you need to drop Landon and probably extend Ereck Flowers to get his $10M cap number down, just so you can try to resign some of the guys above and fit in a MLB. Because remember, if you don't resign the guys above or find an alternative for them, then you've got significant roster holes.

Everyone's drunk over a QB. But we're not that close. Don't get it twisted, I want us to acquire a QB. I just don't want a 38 year old one.

I don't think AR guarantees WFT a SB appearance but I think he gives WFT a fighting chance. Every team has flaws and weaknesses some more than others. Teams go from worst to first all the time. Focusing on being a contender in 2024 in the modern NFL is like focusing on what you are going to be doing on your job 30 years from now. Its not useless, but so much will happen between now and then its more a theoretical exercise than practical.

The most important position in the NFL is QB (just look at the playoff teams to verify that) and WFT doesn't have one. Until they get one they can focus on role players and defensive studs all they until want until 2024 but they wont be any closer to winning then than they are now.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Going to strongly disagree if you're talking about trading away something like two firsts and Daron Payne, for example.

If that trade gets WFT to a Super Bowl then nobody will care who was traded. Payne isn't getting a team to the SB, a QB is.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

Rodgers on probably half or more teams in the league makes them SB contenders. If he was on this team this year, he probably would have counted for at least 3 more wins in my opinion.

It's a win now league. Nobody would give us a better shot right now.

Agree three more wins sounds about right for Aaron. But that kind of makes my point: we would have been 10-7. Not at the level of the Rams, not at the level of GB this year with Rodgers, not at the level of Dallas, and not at the level of TB even though we happened to catch them at the right time this year and beat them.

We've got more work to do than just insert a QB. We need a QB that can be here in 2023 and 2024 because we're more likely to make the run then than we are in 2022.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Agree three more wins sounds about right for Aaron. But that kind of makes my point: we would have been 10-7. Not at the level of the Rams, not at the level of GB this year with Rodgers, not at the level of Dallas, and not at the level of TB even though we happened to catch them at the right time this year and beat them.

We've got more work to do than just insert a QB. We need a QB that can be here in 2023 and 2024 because we're more likely to make the run then than we are in 2022.

I'm not talking about AR just for next year, I think anyone going after him is going to expect him to play for at least another 2-3 years.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'm not talking about AR just for next year, I think anyone going after him is going to expect him to play for at least another 2-3 years.

Exactly, nobody is signing him to a one year deal because he wont do a one year deal.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

Exactly, nobody is signing him to a one year deal because he wont do a one year deal.

Come on guys. Length of the deal isn't the issue. You can give him a 2-3 year deal but that doesn't mean his body won't hit the wall at age 39. Tom Brady has skewed what we thought was possible from quarterbacks at that age. But look at history for just about everybody else; Roethlisberger is toast, Manning, Brees was ineffective that last year for sure at age 41, and the list goes on and on.

What it would take to acquire Rodgers just isn't worth it given the chance that he will fall off the proverbial cliff after one season.