2022 veteran QB options

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

This argument is very reminiscent of the Alex Smith arguments, even though they are very different QBs. The stats are ok, but the record is better than you think it would be, however we all see what we see when watching them...and it's unimpressive with both. I would say the record is due more to coaching staffs in place than the QBs in both of these cases...they were able to scheme around the QBs weaknesses and strengths and win games, but when it comes to the playoffs and a super bowl...you need your QB to shine and neither of those can/could do that.

Agreed, BUT... If it meant consistently 10-11 regular season wins I'd easily take Jimmy G. I'd then look at an upgrade in'23 or '24 to take us to the next level. Right now a QB that gives us multiple winning seasons and a chance at the playoffs every year would be a major upgrade here.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

This argument is very reminiscent of the Alex Smith arguments, even though they are very different QBs. The stats are ok, but the record is better than you think it would be, however we all see what we see when watching them...and it's unimpressive with both. I would say the record is due more to coaching staffs in place than the QBs in both of these cases...they were able to scheme around the QBs weaknesses and strengths and win games, but when it comes to the playoffs and a super bowl...you need your QB to shine and neither of those can/could do that.

Jimmy G is just a winner, and by all accounts he's a great leader in the locker room, and his teammates / coaches love him and what he brings to the table. There's a reason BB drafted him and didn't really want to let him go.

He has had the benefit of good defenses and coaching, but show me a QB that has had great success, or made it to the Super Bowl (or close to it) on his own. That's just not the way this game goes.

His injury history is what gives me pause. In four years as a starter he's missed 25 out of 71 games.

There will be a market for his services though - Broncos, Steelers, Panthers, Lions, Saints, are just some of the teams that could be looking for a change at QB this offseason. I'd be willing to part with this year's 2nd and a day two pick in 2023 for him, but I'm afraid that won't get it done given the competition.

Desperate teams do desperate things, but I hope they don't consider parting with the 11th pick for him.

[Redskins 2021]

Jimmy g has a big cap hit for team trading for him and want a new contract. I don't think there will be as much competition as everyone thinks for him.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Redskins 2021

Jimmy g has a big cap hit for team trading for him and want a new contract. I don't think there will be as much competition as everyone thinks for him.

Agreed.

If Jimmy was a FA, id offer something like 4 yrs/90M/40M guaranteed .. but have to trade a possible 1st or a 2nd plus more ... then have to give him a big contract? No thank you.

Jimmy is definitely better then the Trubisky/Winston tier but not worth trading resources and cap space.

My preference ... (1) trade for Russell Wilson or (2) draft a Qb at 11 this year, draft a QB with first pick next year and keep doing this until one of them checks the franchise QB box.

Trading for Jimmy or signing Wentz or Trubisky is just guaranteeing a below .500 season and another year or 2 of not properly addressing the Qb situation.

Give me Wilson or give me Heinike (and we draft a QB round 1 every year).

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Jimmy G is just a winner, and by all accounts he's a great leader in the locker room, and his teammates / coaches love him and what he brings to the table. There's a reason BB drafted him and didn't really want to let him go.

He has had the benefit of good defenses and coaching, but show me a QB that has had great success, or made it to the Super Bowl (or close to it) on his own. That's just not the way this game goes.

His injury history is what gives me pause. In four years as a starter he's missed 25 out of 71 games.

There will be a market for his services though - Broncos, Steelers, Panthers, Lions, Saints, are just some of the teams that could be looking for a change at QB this offseason. I'd be willing to part with this year's 2nd and a day two pick in 2023 for him, but I'm afraid that won't get it done given the competition.

Desperate teams do desperate things, but I hope they don't consider parting with the 11th pick for him.

Jimmy G is a winner? Nah. He has basically played two seasons. Both with monster D’s, weapons abounding, and great coaching. You put Jimmy G on a mediocre team, or make him the focal point and he is far from a winner.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Jimmy G is a winner? Nah. He has basically played two seasons. Both with monster D’s, weapons abounding, and great coaching. You put Jimmy G on a mediocre team, or make him the focal point and he is far from a winner.

I disagree. He's a winner. He has just been unavailable or playing with injuries too often.

I definitely wouldn't consider the 49ers 2019 and 2021 defenses (the last two years they went deep into the playoffs with Jimmy G) "Monster D's". They were good - maybe top 10, but far from Monster.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

From 2014-2021 the #49ers posted a 49-80 record.

They were 31-14 with Jimmy Garoppolo as the starting quarterback.

Matt Stafford should be exhibit #1 about looking at a QB's W/L record in determining just how good (or bad) he really is.

[skinsfaninok]

This past season:

TOP TARGETS IN KEY SITUATIONS

3RD DOWN = Terry (28 targets)
UNDER PRESSURE = Terry (35 targets)
VS DESIGNED BLITZES = Terry (41 Targets)
IN RED ZONE = Seals Jones (12)

[MTK]

You can certainly do a lot worse than Jimmy G. If a guy like Darnold had multiple teams interested last year you can bet just as many and probably more teams will be sniffing around Jimmy G.

[MTK]

Kyler Murray anyone?

Betting odds shift amid talk that Kyler Murray could leave the Cardinals

The maturity issues are a big red flag, but still something to think about if he was really available

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Kyler Murray anyone?

Betting odds shift amid talk that Kyler Murray could leave the Cardinals

The maturity issues are a big red flag, but still something to think about if he was really available

He seems to be a bit of a baby but maybe Ron can fix that

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by MTK

Kyler Murray anyone?

Betting odds shift amid talk that Kyler Murray could leave the Cardinals

The maturity issues are a big red flag, but still something to think about if he was really available

He is definitely a talent...but definitely has some issues that may not can be overcome. But he'd make things interesting for sure.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

He is definitely a talent...but definitely has some issues that may not can be overcome. But he'd make things interesting for sure.

If nothing else putting him on the market and giving him away to a top bidder would mean one less roster spot that needs to be filled - which helps us. The supply would still be less than demand but every bit helps.

[rocnrik]

Willis is gonna be a star .. take him at 11 problem solved !

[diehardskin2982]

I am conflicted in the direction that I want the team to go. On one hand, I want us to go all-in for Wilson. But, on the other hand, I think sacrificing what it would take to get him, I question whether it is worth it?

For me, I think we need to continue to put together the best team. The cost in draft picks and salary for Russell is too much. I know could get crushed for that.

I would sign Mariota plus draft Willis. If you pick Malik Willis, the bridge qb should be a similar type of player, that way when Willis takes over the offense, it's not too much of a change for the other players on the field. Using the money saved from going this route at qb, I would sign Allen Robinson or Mike Williams, and a quality guard.