Should Brunell be replaced? (merged)

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Originally Posted by skinsguy

You could explain it if you had any idea what you're talking about, but from what most of us have seen, it appears that isn't the case.

So, go ahead and hate on the coach, hate on the quarterback, and hate on the team. I'm sure you'll be right in there with us, high fiving all of us and saying "Gibbs knew what he was doing all along" when this team is back on track.

This whole time, I have asked you, what proof do you have that Patrick Ramsey would be the better quarterback at this point. You have yet to provide the proof, other than what you think might would happen. And, my reply is, we don't go on maybes or would've, could've, should've, we go on what we know. What we know right now, is that this team is 7-6, which is a winning record. We know that this team is still in the hunt for a playoff spot - that is fact. We know that this team is playing a meaningful game against the Dallas Cowboys this Sunday - late in December. What part of any of those points are false or nonesense?

You have given nothing to justify pulling Mark Brunell at this point in the season, other than to harp on Brunell not throwing bombs every game. Brad Johnson didnt' throw bombs when he was with Tampa Bay, and they won the Super Bowl. A good quarterback has to be judged on more than his ability to throw a deep ball. The only thing you can come up with is that Patrick Ramsey has a stronger arm than Mark Brunell. So freakin what? It takes more than a strong arm to play quarterback in this league.

Now, I am not denying that Mark Brunell has had a few bad games recently. However, in two of those games, our team still won. Which emphasis the fact that we win as a team, we lose as a team. This isn't golf. This isn't tennis. This is football. This is a team sport.

I will give it to you again please comprehend, Ramsey under the same conditions last season outplayed Brunell, that is why Gibbs named him the starter this season, in the opening game Ramsey threw for more yards in 1 quarter than Brunell did in 3 quarters, Ramsey's arm is much stronger than Brunells which has alway's been a big advantage in a Gibbs system [Joe always liked strong armed QB] although he seems to have been trying to reinvent himself this go round, he has a homerun hitting back rather than a power guy to grind it out, and a week armed QB in Brunell, who I might add Gibbs likes the fact that he can scramble even though through his first tenure he wanted his QB to stay in the pocket, not that I have a real problem with the philosophy of the above, but it doesn't seem he has been able to make all the adjustments for both the passing, and running game to become consistant, hopefully he will get there.

I wish I had more to go off of as far as proof that Ramsey would be an overall better choice for us at QB under Gibbs, but I can only go off of what I have seen which isn't a whole lot because obviously Ramsey hasen't seen the field much in Gibbs tenure, it's a talent judgement on my part. Even if he fails, how much worse would we really be, what has, and what is, Brunell doing to make believers out of all of us? Ramsey deserved the chance in the regular season to sink or swim, at least we would know where we stand with him by now, we may not needed to give up next years draft for yes another unproven QB out of college, that is the biggest risk Gibbs has taken in this whole QB controversy.

Do you deny that Ramsey outplayed Brunell last season under the same circumstances? Do you deny he threw for more yards in 1 quarter against the Bears this season than Brunell did in 3? Do YOU know for sure that Ramsey wouldn't be better than Brunell? Do you believe if Ramsey goes to a team like the Dolphins, Bucs, Bears, Boy's, next season he will fail? Because I believe where ever he is next year excluding us, he will succeed, but that is my opinion at this point, and only time will tell if I am right, or wrong on the evaluation.

Take a long look at what happened in both Giant games last season, under brunell we lose, under ramsey we crushed them, I do know circumstances can dictate wins and loses and they don't alway's tell the whole story, but we lose with Brunell, and crush them with Ramsey, that may be the strongest argument for ramsey.