2022 veteran QB options

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Cousins is better than Foles and Sam tho, he's consistently putting up top 15 numbers. Foles was a 1 hit wonder

Say what you want about Foles but he is a SB champion, something Cousins will never be.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Say what you want about Foles but he is a SB champion, something Cousins will never be.

Yup and say what you want about Trent Dilfer but he is a SB champion, something Dan Marino will never be. That doesn’t mean diddly and you know damn well KC is a better quarterback than Foles.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yup and say what you want about Trent Dilfer but he is a SB champion, something Dan Marino will never be. That doesn’t mean diddly and you know damn well KC is a better quarterback than Foles.

damn son

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

damn son

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Yup and say what you want about Trent Dilfer but he is a SB champion, something Dan Marino will never be. That doesn’t mean diddly and you know damn well KC is a better quarterback than Foles.

The overall body of work says Cousins is better. I will agree there. But Foles played great on the biggest stage. Cousins hasn't done that and probably never will.

I think w/ Cousins what's most important to him is making as much money as possible and keeping good stats. He's a good to very good QB but not a championship QB.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The overall body of work says Cousins is better. I will agree there. But Foles played great on the biggest stage. Cousins hasn't done that and probably never will.

I think w/ Cousins what's most important to him is making as much money as possible and keeping good stats. He's a good to very good QB but not a championship QB.

He's bitchboy that is a damn good business man. Played us like a violin. Vikings too.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

He's bitchboy that is a damn good business man. Played us like a violin. Vikings too.

It's like all the guy cares about is making as much money as possible and nothing else matters. I can see why guys in the locker room do not warm up to him. He's not a leader, he's not a CEO of a team. He's an employee and a highly compensated one.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The overall body of work says Cousins is better. I will agree there. But Foles played great on the biggest stage. Cousins hasn't done that and probably never will.

I think w/ Cousins what's most important to him is making as much money as possible and keeping good stats. He's a good to very good QB but not a championship QB.

I think you are spot on and honestly, I don't think there is nothing wrong with that. I just don't understand why people are so bent on defending him.

To me he will always be a tier 2 QB with tier 1 QB stats.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

To me he will always be a tier 2 QB with tier 1 QB stats.

You are as hell bent on trashing him as well. I don’t even understand how you can be a tier 2 quarterback with tier 1 stats? Isn’t that what makes you a tier 1 or 2 quarterback, stats?

I mean I can go along with he is overpaid, but that’s the business of nfl quarterbacks. It doesn’t make him better or worse.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You are as hell bent on trashing him as well. I don’t even understand how you can be a tier 2 quarterback with tier 1 stats? Isn’t that what makes you a tier 1 or 2 quarterback, stats?

I would agree with you if I didn't see it myself. I have said it before my son plays youth hockey at a pretty decent level, season ended. I could go through the stats of each of his players and if i presented you just those stats you maybe inclined to rank just off the stats, you be dead wrong though.

There is a intangible to players that no algorithm in the world can capture, that intangible differentiates the has and has nots.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You are as hell bent on trashing him as well. I don’t even understand how you can be a tier 2 quarterback with tier 1 stats? Isn’t that what makes you a tier 1 or 2 quarterback, stats?

I mean I can go along with he is overpaid, but that’s the business of nfl quarterbacks. It doesn’t make him better or worse.

I'm not trashing him. I think he could go to New Orleans, Tampa Bay, or San Francisco and be more successful than he was in Minnesota. They have the personnel for a QB like Kirk.

Maybe calling him a tier 2 QB is not the best way to represent what I was trying to say. Maybe he's tier 1 but not elite?

I mean is he in the category as:

- Rodgers
- Mahommes
- Wilson

These are all current QBs, playing at a high level, who have double-digit/winning playoff records, and each has at least 1 SB.

In that case, a tier 1 of QBs could include Cousins. He'd be in the company of other QBs with 5 or less playoffs appearances:

- Joe Borrow
- Josh Allen
- Deshaun Watson
- Lamar Jackson
- Ryan Tannehill

So is it fair to call Kirk a tier 1 QB with elite stats?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm not trashing him. I think he could go to New Orleans, Tampa Bay, or San Francisco and be more successful than he was in Minnesota. They have the personnel for a QB like Kirk.

Maybe calling him a tier 2 QB is not the best way to represent what I was trying to say. Maybe he's tier 1 but not elite?

I mean is he in the category as:

- Rodgers
- Mahommes
- Wilson

These are all current QBs, playing at a high level, who have double-digit/winning playoff records, and each has at least 1 SB.

In that case, a tier 1 of QBs could include Cousins. He'd be in the company of other QBs with 5 or less playoffs appearances:

- Joe Borrow
- Josh Allen
- Deshaun Watson
- Lamar Jackson
- Ryan Tannehill

So is it fair to call Kirk a tier 1 QB with elite stats?

That was a great deal for TEN, we need our version of Ryan T to come to WAS.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm not trashing him. I think he could go to New Orleans, Tampa Bay, or San Francisco and be more successful than he was in Minnesota. They have the personnel for a QB like Kirk.

Maybe calling him a tier 2 QB is not the best way to represent what I was trying to say. Maybe he's tier 1 but not elite?

I mean is he in the category as:

- Rodgers
- Mahommes
- Wilson

These are all current QBs, playing at a high level, who have double-digit/winning playoff records, and each has at least 1 SB.

In that case, a tier 1 of QBs could include Cousins. He'd be in the company of other QBs with 5 or less playoffs appearances:

- Joe Borrow
- Josh Allen
- Deshaun Watson
- Lamar Jackson
- Ryan Tannehill

So is it fair to call Kirk a tier 1 QB with elite stats?

I think that is fair. He is a borderline top 10 QB.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm not trashing him. I think he could go to New Orleans, Tampa Bay, or San Francisco and be more successful than he was in Minnesota. They have the personnel for a QB like Kirk.

Maybe calling him a tier 2 QB is not the best way to represent what I was trying to say. Maybe he's tier 1 but not elite?

I mean is he in the category as:

- Rodgers
- Mahommes
- Wilson

These are all current QBs, playing at a high level, who have double-digit/winning playoff records, and each has at least 1 SB.

In that case, a tier 1 of QBs could include Cousins. He'd be in the company of other QBs with 5 or less playoffs appearances:

- Joe Borrow
- Josh Allen
- Deshaun Watson
- Lamar Jackson
- Ryan Tannehill

So is it fair to call Kirk a tier 1 QB with elite stats?

Very few elites. The ones u mentioned basically. Id kill for a tier one quarterback with elite stats if that is what you want to call him.

I still, as always, have to bring up situation. I think if Kirk played with a good HC, elite weapons, and a solid defense he could definitely achieve elite status. Not all guys could- even with all that. I don’t think the teams he has played on have afforded him the opportunity to showcase what he is fully capable of. Just my opinion.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The overall body of work says Cousins is better. I will agree there. But Foles played great on the biggest stage. Cousins hasn't done that and probably never will.

I think w/ Cousins what's most important to him is making as much money as possible and keeping good stats. He's a good to very good QB but not a championship QB.

Do you think maybe Foles had a better team around him for his one shining moment? I know Dilfer did. Also if Foles had the leverage Cousins did he would cash out. You can’t fault Cousins for taking more money, and Im not sure you can say he doesn’t play well on a big stage. I mean what big stage has the team around him ever afforded him? Its all situational and that’s not under Cousins control.