Welcome Carson Wentz

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would have signed Bridgewater and drafted someone. Teddy isn't flashy but he will take care of the ball and won't LOSE you games like Wentz does.

Ron thinks this team is similar to the Rams and he is way off. His team NEEDS the draft picks. Every last one of them. Holes everywhere on this roster.

So I sign Teddy, I draft the stud wr out of Ohio State and have more room on the cap to fill some holes. I'd probably go in the 2nd or 3rd round to get my QB and just deal w/ the fact that this isn't a great QB draft. But I could maybe get Ridder or Strong in the 2nd or maybe the 3rd. Now you got someone in the pipeline.

I'll try and win 8 or 9 games running the ball, playing better defense, hitting some big plays w/ my wr's and not turning it over. That's the ceiling for this team, with or w/out Wentz.

So there you go, I just sold you on what this dumb ass team should have done... lol.

Teddy lost plenty of games last year by not making the throws needed to win the game. His ceiling is so low at this point in his career that you have no choice but to draft a QB. For the three of you that would have liked this scenario the rest of us would be pretty furious if we decided to roll with Teddy AND not draft a QB.

And for whatever reason, we continue to gloss over how bad the Colts receiving corps and pass pro was.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Swarley

Teddy lost plenty of games last year by not making the throws needed to win the game. His ceiling is so low at this point in his career that you have no choice but to draft a QB. For the three of you that would have liked this scenario the rest of us would be pretty furious if we decided to roll with Teddy AND not draft a QB.

And for whatever reason, we continue to gloss over how bad the Colts receiving corps and pass pro was.

Teddy B blows, I get why people were intrigued with him early in his career, but now? Might as well stick with Heinicke if that was the option.

[MTK]

Reality is of all the remaining available guys we were looking at, they all have issues. Trubisky, Jimmy G, Winston, Mariota, sorry but you can't make the case any of these guys are better than Wentz. They're just not. We got the best of what was left on the heap after the big dogs were ruled out.

Wentz has shown he can play at a very high level, and at times makes truly elite plays. He's also shown he tries to do too much sometimes and gets careless. Obviously the hope is to limit the boneheaded stuff and get more of the good Carson.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Reality is of all the remaining available guys we were looking at, they all have issues. Trubisky, Jimmy G, Winston, Mariota, sorry but you can't make the case any of these guys are better than Wentz. They're just not. We got the best of what was left on the heap after the big dogs were ruled out.

Wentz has shown he can play at a very high level, and at times makes truly elite plays. He's also shown he tries to do too much sometimes and gets careless. Obviously the hope is to limit the boneheaded stuff and get more of the good Carson.

I still hope we draft a QB at 11

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I still hope we draft a QB at 11

Unless a QB is truly the BPA at 11, and that seems very doubtful, I'd go elsewhere. We could go with one of the top WR, LB, or DB there.

[irish]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I still hope we draft a QB at 11

They have to draft a QB at 11. They have to keep drafting QBs until one works out because its the most important position.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by irish

They have to draft a QB at 11. They have to keep drafting QBs until one works out because its the most important position.

I agree, Wentz is not the long term answer. Plus it pushes Wentz even more if a 1st rounder is standing in the wings pressuring him.

[Redskins247]

Well one thing is for sure about this trade, Ron is definitely in charge right now, not Snyder...because Snyder would've never been down for this...I'm sure his reaction is very similar to much of the fan base. It is not exciting, and doesn't inspire hope to a franchise that is desperately seeking hope. And we all know, after Rodgers and Wilson were officially somewhere else, Watson was the only other one that gave any hope to the future, and you can only assume they were not going that route or willing to wait on it. I think there is a very small chance Wentz will win here but I hope I'm wrong. It is funny to me that some are saying they like this deal vs signing a free agent because they'd have to commit more to a free agent...you commit as much as you want in the contract they sign...you make it a prove it this year type deal or we can move on from you. I think we've also learned Ron doesn't want a rookie QB...at all...so don't look for one to be drafted this season or next, unless they have a top 3 pick...which could happen.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

Well one thing is for sure about this trade, Ron is definitely in charge right now, not Snyder...because Snyder would've never been down for this...I'm sure his reaction is very similar to much of the fan base. It is not exciting, and doesn't inspire hope to a franchise that is desperately seeking hope. And we all know, after Rodgers and Wilson were officially somewhere else, Watson was the only other one that gave any hope to the future, and you can only assume they were not going that route or willing to wait on it. I think there is a very small chance Wentz will win here but I hope I'm wrong. It is funny to me that some are saying they like this deal vs signing a free agent because they'd have to commit more to a free agent...you commit as much as you want in the contract they sign...you make it a prove it this year type deal or we can move on from you. I think we've also learned Ron doesn't want a rookie QB...at all...so don't look for one to be drafted this season or next, unless they have a top 3 pick...which could happen.

Problem with that is team B comes along and says hey Carson, we'll give you that 3 year $60M deal you want, no problem. And just like that you're back to square one.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

Well one thing is for sure about this trade, Ron is definitely in charge right now, not Snyder...because Snyder would've never been down for this...I'm sure his reaction is very similar to much of the fan base. It is not exciting, and doesn't inspire hope to a franchise that is desperately seeking hope. And we all know, after Rodgers and Wilson were officially somewhere else, Watson was the only other one that gave any hope to the future, and you can only assume they were not going that route or willing to wait on it. I think there is a very small chance Wentz will win here but I hope I'm wrong. It is funny to me that some are saying they like this deal vs signing a free agent because they'd have to commit more to a free agent...you commit as much as you want in the contract they sign...you make it a prove it this year type deal or we can move on from you. I think we've also learned Ron doesn't want a rookie QB...at all...so don't look for one to be drafted this season or next, unless they have a top 3 pick...which could happen.

Expect you have to get the FA to agree to that and you are bidding for their services against other teams, i am pretty sure free agent Wentz was not coming here.

[irish]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Expect you have to get the FA to agree to that and you are bidding for their services against other teams, i am pretty sure free agent Wentz was not coming here.

No free agent QB is coming to Washington unless they are out of options.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

Well one thing is for sure about this trade, Ron is definitely in charge right now, not Snyder...because Snyder would've never been down for this...I'm sure his reaction is very similar to much of the fan base. It is not exciting, and doesn't inspire hope to a franchise that is desperately seeking hope. And we all know, after Rodgers and Wilson were officially somewhere else, Watson was the only other one that gave any hope to the future, and you can only assume they were not going that route or willing to wait on it. I think there is a very small chance Wentz will win here but I hope I'm wrong. It is funny to me that some are saying they like this deal vs signing a free agent because they'd have to commit more to a free agent...you commit as much as you want in the contract they sign...you make it a prove it this year type deal or we can move on from you. I think we've also learned Ron doesn't want a rookie QB...at all...so don't look for one to be drafted this season or next, unless they have a top 3 pick...which could happen.

cuz we see how well hes handled that in the past

[SunnySide]

Soon enough we''ll be talking about how we went 7-10 with Heinike in an injury riddled no. 1 schedule season, how Chase will come back healthy, Logan Thomas "has never felt this good in his career", Williams Jackson III gets year 2 in the scheme, how our no. 11 overall pick a guard is the next coming of Osemele and Jamin Davis is playing without thinking.

Add all that up plus Wentz being good for 2 WAR and viola ...

Were talking playoffs and half the fan base is voting for a 10-7 season.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Soon enough we''ll be talking about how we went 7-10 with Heinike in an injury riddled no. 1 schedule season, how Chase will come back healthy, Logan Thomas "has never felt this good in his career", Williams Jackson III gets year 2 in the scheme, how our no. 11 overall pick a guard is the next coming of Osemele and Jamin Davis is playing without thinking.

Add all that up plus Wentz being good for 2 WAR and viola ...

Were talking playoffs and half the fan base is voting for a 10-7 season.

I love mini camp time, when guys are flying around in shorts, every pick looks like a potential stud, and optimism is flowing like fine wine lol

[skinsfaninok]

“Jameis Winston wants to stay in New Orleans” - The athletics Ben Standig

Kinda figured this, and it’s another reason we should be ok with Wentz

It was legit Mitch or Wentz…


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