Welcome Carson Wentz

[skinsfan69]

I do feel like they should have a back up plan in place if this doesn't work. That 2nd round pick I feel should be a QB. I give this Wentz deal a 50/50 chance of hitting.

[MTK]

I wouldn't bother with a QB until the later rounds or an undrafted guy. Too many holes to fill right now to use a high round pick on a 3rd string QB.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

I wouldn't bother with a QB until the later rounds or an undrafted guy. Too many holes to fill right now to use a high round pick on a 3rd string QB.

I think I'm with Matty. In rounds 1 and 2 I think we need pieces in important positions. This year's QB crop is nothing to write home about - I don't think I'd invest one of our 1st or 2nd rounders this year, unless Pickett or Willis fell to round 2 which just won't happen.

I'd consider a QB on day three but even then, not sure I'd force it. I'd look harder at next year's QB crop once I have a year's worth of information about Wentz paired with Scott Turner.

Heinicke is under contract with us this year and makes for, frankly, the ideal backup QB situation. QB can be addressed in 2023 if needed.

Use that 1st and 2nd rounder on a wideout and a MLB, or something like that. Guys that can help us now, help put Wentz in a better position to succeed. We can shoot our shot next year if he isn't the answer.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think I'm with Matty. In rounds 1 and 2 I think we need pieces in important positions. This year's QB crop is nothing to write home about - I don't think I'd invest one of our 1st or 2nd rounders this year, unless Pickett or Willis fell to round 2 which just won't happen.

I'd consider a QB on day three but even then, not sure I'd force it. I'd look harder at next year's QB crop once I have a year's worth of information about Wentz paired with Scott Turner.

Heinicke is under contract with us this year and makes for, frankly, the ideal backup QB situation. QB can be addressed in 2023 if needed.

Use that 1st and 2nd rounder on a wideout and a MLB, or something like that. Guys that can help us now, help put Wentz in a better position to succeed. We can shoot our shot next year if he isn't the answer.

1st rounder I would agree. That would be off the table. Anything after that is fair game.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

I wouldn't bother with a QB until the later rounds or an undrafted guy. Too many holes to fill right now to use a high round pick on a 3rd string QB.

Here is the problem w/ that. Let's say Wentz turns his knee again and is out for 8 weeks. You have a guy who plays on the edge and has an injury history. Or he goes back to 2020 Wentz. Then what? You are back to TH again for an extended period of time. Or you can possibly have let's say Sam Howell or Carson Strong.

Remember the 2012 draft? Shanahan nailed it and drafted two guys at QB cause he was not sold on the #1 guy. And the value was too good on Cousins.

I'd rather have possible quality depth at the most important position rather than fill a hole. I can fill holes in the second round of signings in free agency.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Here is the problem w/ that. Let's say Wentz turns his knee again and is out for 8 weeks. You have a guy who plays on the edge and has an injury history. Or he goes back to 2020 Wentz. Then what? You are back to TH again for an extended period of time. Or you can possibly have let's say Sam Howell or Carson Strong.

Remember the 2012 draft? Shanahan nailed it and drafted two guys at QB cause he was not sold on the #1 guy. And the value was too good on Cousins.

I'd rather have possible quality depth at the most important position rather than fill a hole. I can fill holes in the second round of signings in free agency.

Well, TH is the #2, so if Wentz goes down it's going to be TH as the next man up over a rookie anyway.

[skinsfaninok]

yeah we are fine at QB, Wentz is better than anyone we would find in the later rounds. Give him 2 full seasons and re-access

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

yeah we are fine at QB, Wentz is better than anyone we would find in the later rounds. Give him 2 full seasons and re-access

True, but he may or may not be better than someone in the earlier rounds.

[skinsfan69]

See Rex Grossman.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

See Rex Grossman.

Why?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Why?

Because he is sexy.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Because he is sexy.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

See Rex Grossman.

I'm trying so hard to understand this but I fear I'm just not that talented.

Are you trying to say that Rex Grossman was once a 3rd string QB and played an important role?

Or are you comparing Carson Wentz to John Beck?

Mom I need to stay home from school today, skinsfan69 gave me a headache.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'm trying so hard to understand this but I fear I'm just not that talented.

Are you trying to say that Rex Grossman was once a 3rd string QB and played an important role?

Or are you comparing Carson Wentz to John Beck?

Mom I need to stay home from school today, skinsfan69 gave me a headache.

Basically Ron and co need to have some forward thinking skills and make sure they have a back-up plan in case Wentz doesn't work out. They should plan on drafting a QB and have someone in the pipeline and hopefully that player can be the #2 and you have a vet like TH as the #3. I used the 2012 as an example where Rex was the #3 backing up two rookies. Obviously Wentz is not a rookie but he is new here.

As I have always said you need to be drafting Qb's. You can't count on Wentz being the long term solution.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Basically Ron and co need to have some forward thinking skills and make sure they have a back-up plan in case Wentz doesn't work out. They should plan on drafting a QB and have someone in the pipeline and hopefully that player can be the #2 and you have a vet like TH as the #3. I used the 2012 as an example where Rex was the #3 backing up two rookies. Obviously Wentz is not a rookie but he is new here.

As I have always said you need to be drafting Qb's. You can't count on Wentz being the long term solution.

Thank you that makes sense and now I can stop googling how Rex Grossman makes mac & cheese because that was as likely to be your point than anything.

But all jokes aside I see your point and it's a valid one. Taking a swing at QB is a good idea until you're sure you have a superstar.