Welcome Carson Wentz

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Totally wrong on Wilson. We had zero chance w/ him. It was never going to happen here.

I just don't see the 3rd round and 2nd round picks being average. They could turn to be a lot more. As I said out best player is a 2nd rounder.

My point is you can go out and get an average QB and not give up the compensation. I mention maybe not re-signing McKissic. We talked about Mitch, Winston and so on. Ok maybe they sign elsewhere. Then what about Bridgewater? He knows this offense. He is also an average QB. You can get the same production out of him w/out the financial cost or draft pick comp.

Yes Wentz has highlights but he also has a lot of lowlights. A lot of them. I think Ballard said that the problem w/ this guy is he simply misses the layups. He misses the easy routine plays that any NFL QB can make. That is why has has been moved twice.

Now you're just being irrational about the value of 2nd and 3rd rounders. They could be good, they could be complete non contributors, and they could end up as depth guys.

On the layup issue, I agree that's a problem, and ultimately what stops him from being considered anything better than an average starter. At the same time Bridgewater has never thrown for 27 touchdowns. So he might make layups but that's all he makes. Jameis, well he makes half court shots but he also turns the ball over like crazy.

I think you're looking at having to commit more guaranteed money to Teddy and Jameis than you think. There are still teams out there thirsty for QBs. Let's revisit this in a few weeks once those guys have signed. Bet you feel better about not having any guaranteed money committed to Wentz once you see what those guys get on the market.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Now you're just being irrational about the value of 2nd and 3rd rounders. They could be good, they could be complete non contributors, and they could end up as depth guys.

On the layup issue, I agree that's a problem, and ultimately what stops him from being considered anything better than an average starter. At the same time Bridgewater has never thrown for 27 touchdowns. So he might make layups but that's all he makes. Jameis, well he makes half court shots but he also turns the ball over like crazy.

I think you're looking at having to commit more guaranteed money to Teddy and Jameis than you think. There are still teams out there thirsty for QBs. Let's revisit this in a few weeks once those guys have signed. Bet you feel better about not having any guaranteed money committed to Wentz once you see what those guys get on the market.

What I'm trying to say is I'd rather have my draft picks and take a chance on getting a free agent- Bridgwater, Trubisky, Winston, Mariota over giving up my picks and getting Wentz. To me Wentz isn't any better than the guys I just listed. If I struck out w/ all of them then I'm going back to Taylor/Allen and I am drafting someone.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What I'm trying to say is I'd rather have my draft picks and take a chance on getting a free agent- Bridgwater, Trubisky, Winston, Mariota over giving up my picks and getting Wentz. To me Wentz isn't any better than the guys I just listed. If I struck out w/ all of them then I'm going back to Taylor/Allen and I am drafting someone.

That basically assures that they start the season with Heinicke at QB, which would be the ultimate offseason failure.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

That basically assures that they start the season with Heinicke at QB, which would be the ultimate offseason failure.

Yup.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

That basically assures that they start the season with Heinicke at QB, which would be the ultimate offseason failure.

Not really. You just won 7 w/ him when the team had a shitty defense. How many do you win next year w/ Wentz? I'm calling it right now, 6-9 wins. He won't get them to 10 wins.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not really. You just won 7 w/ him when the team had a shitty defense. How many do you win next year w/ Wentz? I'm calling it right now, 6-9 wins. He won't get them to 10 wins.

The schedule sets up pretty nicely actually. I can definitely see 10 or more wins on that schedule. If Wentz plays well they should compete for the Division at a minimum.