Around the NFL 2022: Offseason edition

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

He's not wrong here though

Should the man not be allowed to work again?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Should the man not be allowed to work again?

He didn't say that.

I don’t think any team should go into business with a player—though cleared of criminal charges—who has 22 women accusing him of indecent acts. Thirty-one teams should have risen up and said, We might be interested in this great football player, but only after we know the full scope of what we’re dealing with. The fact is, they don’t know. Watson could be faultless, and he could have run into 22 women, all of whom are lying, as his attorney Rusty Hardin thinks. That would be an incredible coincidence, 22 women all lying. But let the legal system play this out.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Should the man not be allowed to work again?

He should work for it though. They were 4-12 in 2020 and 4-13 in 2021 without him. Look I realize he is a good QB and I don't see anyone saying different but it's almost two full seasons since he has played , this is a new team , new Coaches , he hasn't earned or deserves this type of money .

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

He should work for it though. They were 4-12 in 2020 and 4-13 in 2021 without him. Look I realize he is a good QB and I don't see anyone saying different but it's almost two full seasons since he has played , this is a new team , new Coaches , he hasn't earned or deserves this type of money .

Yeah, the contract itself is nuts. I can't believe Cleveland ponied up that much. He better play at an elite level or he and Cleveland will get even more roasted.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Giantone

He should work for it though. They were 4-12 in 2020 and 4-13 in 2021 without him. Look I realize he is a good QB and I don't see anyone saying different but it's almost two full seasons since he has played , this is a new team , new Coaches , he hasn't earned or deserves this type of money .

if the browns didn't give him that kind of money, he wouldn't have gone to the browns. the low 2022 base salary and full guarantee (including if suspended) allowed the browns to give up less to the texans in draft picks/players to get him.

Is he worth that money? probably not, and the PR will have some impact on browns' revenue, but if he wins 12 games... it'll be a win for them financially and the fans will start caring about his issues a lot less (see Barry Bonds, etc).

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Should the man not be allowed to work again?

I don't know if condemning the trade and optics and unemployment are mutually inclusive. Jeffery Skilling did his time doesn't mean companies that do business with Veld Applied Analytics might not feel some heat.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I don't know if condemning the trade and optics and unemployment are mutually inclusive. Jeffery Skilling did his time doesn't mean companies that do business with Veld Applied Analytics might not feel some heat.

I'm glad he found somewhere to play again and try to get his life back on track. And I'm glad it wasn't us, because we have too much shit going on with Snyder already, it just wouldn't have worked here. I would have supported him, but Cleveland is a better spot for him.

There won't be criminal charges, but they will all likely still get paid in civil court, so let the man work.

That article is just typical Peter King drivel, that probably has been written by 100 different writers already, because its such low hanging fruit to score some brownie points.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I'm glad he found somewhere to play again and try to get his life back on track. And I'm glad it wasn't us, because we have too much shit going on with Snyder already, it just wouldn't have worked here. I would have supported him, but Cleveland is a better spot for him.

There won't be criminal charges, but they will all likely still get paid in civil court, so let the man work.

That article is just typical Peter King drivel, that probably has been written by 100 different writers already, because its such low hanging fruit to score some brownie points.

Even if half of what he's accused of is true it's pretty disgusting. Good thing not everyone can look past harassment and abuse so easily and just write it off as scoring some brownie points.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

Even if half of what he's accused of is true it's pretty disgusting. Good thing not everyone can look past harassment and abuse so easily and just write it off as scoring some brownie points.

Unfortunately we will never know if there was abuse. If so he has to live with that.

I mean, playing devils advocate he got a happy ending from some masseuse. So he ripped the towel off and turned over next time and the girl was like gtfo. This cycle continued until one was like hey i could make a lot of money saying this guy harassed me or abused me - when in actuality it was a proposition. A sleazy pervy proposition but a proposition none the less. They said no, he was like later. If i knew that to be the case I really wouldn’t consider it criminal by any means. Now if he got forceful with them, wouldn’t take no for an answer and threatened them well lock his ass up.

I don’t know any of this to be true or not, but it is possible he simply asked??!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Unfortunately we will never know if there was abuse. If so he has to live with that.

I mean, playing devils advocate he got a happy ending from some masseuse. So he ripped the towel off and turned over next time and the girl was like gtfo. This cycle continued until one was like hey i could make a lot of money saying this guy harassed me or abused me - when in actuality it was a proposition. A sleazy pervy proposition but a proposition none the less. They said no, he was like later. If i knew that to be the case I really wouldn’t consider it criminal by any means. Now if he got forceful with them, wouldn’t take no for an answer and threatened them well lock his ass up.

I don’t know any of this to be true or not, but it is possible he simply asked??!

There's nothing here that makes it sound any better. In fact anytime someone tries to explain this mess away it just sounds creepier.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

There's nothing here that makes it sound any better. In fact anytime someone tries to explain this mess away it just sounds creepier.

I don’t even know what is supposed to sound better because i have absolutely no idea what actually happened. Nobody on this board does.

I remember when Big Ben was accused of having his bodyguards watch the door while he raped some girl in a bathroom. Or when he was accused of raping Andrea Mcnulty who he had into his room to help fix his tv? Said she begged him to stop and wound up in a mental health facility. Imagine if that happened today in the me too era? Maybe 20 other women would have come forward.

There is creepy and there is criminal.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Unfortunately we will never know if there was abuse. If so he has to live with that.

I mean, playing devils advocate he got a happy ending from some masseuse. So he ripped the towel off and turned over next time and the girl was like gtfo. This cycle continued until one was like hey i could make a lot of money saying this guy harassed me or abused me - when in actuality it was a proposition. A sleazy pervy proposition but a proposition none the less. They said no, he was like later. If i knew that to be the case I really wouldn’t consider it criminal by any means. Now if he got forceful with them, wouldn’t take no for an answer and threatened them well lock his ass up.

I don’t know any of this to be true or not, but it is possible he simply asked??!

There was more to it. He was looking these women up on social media. He looked them up, some w/ little experience in massage therapy, booked them and then did his freaky shit.

Yes no crime was probably committed. All it proves is he has some real issues.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Even if half of what he's accused of is true it's pretty disgusting. Good thing not everyone can look past harassment and abuse so easily and just write it off as scoring some brownie points.

Not looking past anything, but there won't be criminal charges. And if there isn't, he should be able to play.

And he found a team that agreed. And there were plenty more that did too.

Clearly, he is into some weird shit, and probably needs some form of counseling, but that could apply to tons of players for all we know.