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[SunnySide]

I used to semi some what like Levin. I listened to his show on WMAL on my rides home from work. He could give conservative talking points without the hystrionics.

When Trump first won, one of the big talking points was mexico would pay for the wall through tariffs and tariffs on china would be paid by China.

Levin clearly stated over and over thats not how sanctions work, the american people pay for tariffs. "I worked in the Reagan administration and we invented tariffs blah blah blah .."

First few months of Trumps presidency I thought Levin is really going to stick to what he believes and not go MAGA. Then Levin went MAGA .. havent heard his show in a while. Not even sure its still on WMAL.

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there are all talking heads. find someone who preaches your view point then just tune into them exclusively and swim around in your nice confirmation bias fish bowl.

i dont get worked up on what a levin or carlson say.

listening to WMAL today and they had a guy sitting in for Chris Plantt (thank god) and callers literally went like this (and the host is trying to talk about how Ukraine sunk a russian ship at port)

caller: "When you have the whole weight of the govt against one party, when one party controls the ballots, when one party controls the media ... why are we trying to bring change through the ballot boxes?"

host: "well i hope you dont mean a revolution but I do believe the way forward is through ballot boxes .. I hope you dont mean you want a revolution"

caller: "well when the govt is controlled by one party, one party is in control of the ballots putting up cardboard boxes, when one party has all these billionaires giving money .."

A LOT of conservatives legit think the election was rigged and the Dems secretly control the govt

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I used to semi some what like Levin. I listened to his show on WMAL on my rides home from work. He could give conservative talking points without the hystrionics.

When Trump first won, one of the big talking points was mexico would pay for the wall through tariffs and tariffs on china would be paid by China.

Levin clearly stated over and over thats not how sanctions work, the american people pay for tariffs. "I worked in the Reagan administration and we invented tariffs blah blah blah .."

First few months of Trumps presidency I thought Levin is really going to stick to what he believes and not go MAGA. Then Levin went MAGA .. havent heard his show in a while. Not even sure its still on WMAL.

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there are all talking heads. find someone who preaches your view point then just tune into them exclusively and swim around in your nice confirmation bias fish bowl.

i dont get worked up on what a levin or carlson say.

listening to WMAL today and they had a guy sitting in for Chris Plantt (thank god) and callers literally went like this (and the host is trying to talk about how Ukraine sunk a russian ship at port)

caller: "When you have the whole weight of the govt against one party, when one party controls the ballots, when one party controls the media ... why are we trying to bring change through the ballot boxes?"

host: "well i hope you dont mean a revolution but I do believe the way forward is through ballot boxes .. I hope you dont mean you want a revolution"

caller: "well when the govt is controlled by one party, one party is in control of the ballots putting up cardboard boxes, when one party has all these billionaires giving money .."

A LOT of conservatives legit think the election was rigged and the Dems secretly control the govt

Levin was in the position in 2016 of either sticking with his principals or losing his audience (The talk radio base audience became overwhelming MAGA). It is why I said he rolled over and showed his belly and is still afraid to accurately portray what even limited elements of MAGA are, even if he doesn't like some or even many of their positions.

(BTW Glenn Beck is another that showed his belly - ie broadcasters that vehemently opposed Trump and accurately described him that then bent the knee to keep their broadcast position).

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Levin was in the position in 2016 of either sticking with his principals or losing his audience (The talk radio base audience became overwhelming MAGA). It is why I said he rolled over and showed his belly and is still afraid to accurately portray what even limited elements of MAGA are, even if he doesn't like some or even many of their positions.

(BTW Glenn Beck is another that showed his belly).

I used to read every article on glenn beck back before he tried the glenn beck tv show and the website became glitzy/video clippy. It was maybe 5 new articles a day so it was easy to keep up. I agreed with him half the time but I did find he was honest in what he thought.

i think that teddy bear at the border thing back fired on him some how.

anyone not fully maga had to make a professional choice.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Levin was in the position in 2016 of either sticking with his principals or losing his audience (The talk radio base audience became overwhelming MAGA). It is why I said he rolled over and showed his belly and is still afraid to accurately portray what even limited elements of MAGA are, even if he doesn't like some or even many of their positions.

(BTW Glenn Beck is another that showed his belly - ie broadcasters that vehemently opposed Trump and accurately described him that then bent the knee to keep their broadcast position).

This was/is a serious problem that doesn't get enough talk.

There were dime-a-dozen clips from 2015/before of GOP politicians speaking truth about Trump. Then they all flipped when they realized their careers in politics would end if they didn't fall in line because their voter base all became Trump diehards.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I used to semi some what like Levin. I listened to his show on WMAL on my rides home from work. He could give conservative talking points without the hystrionics.

When Trump first won, one of the big talking points was mexico would pay for the wall through tariffs and tariffs on china would be paid by China.

Levin clearly stated over and over thats not how sanctions work, the american people pay for tariffs. "I worked in the Reagan administration and we invented tariffs blah blah blah .."

First few months of Trumps presidency I thought Levin is really going to stick to what he believes and not go MAGA. Then Levin went MAGA .. havent heard his show in a while. Not even sure its still on WMAL.

---------

there are all talking heads. find someone who preaches your view point then just tune into them exclusively and swim around in your nice confirmation bias fish bowl.

i dont get worked up on what a levin or carlson say.

listening to WMAL today and they had a guy sitting in for Chris Plantt (thank god) and callers literally went like this (and the host is trying to talk about how Ukraine sunk a russian ship at port)

caller: "When you have the whole weight of the govt against one party, when one party controls the ballots, when one party controls the media ... why are we trying to bring change through the ballot boxes?"

host: "well i hope you dont mean a revolution but I do believe the way forward is through ballot boxes .. I hope you dont mean you want a revolution"

caller: "well when the govt is controlled by one party, one party is in control of the ballots putting up cardboard boxes, when one party has all these billionaires giving money .."

A LOT of conservatives legit think the election was rigged and the Dems secretly control the govt

I like Levin pov…i probably agree 60% on macro issues, probably disagree less on random points or general things. I probably agree with around the same percentage with Carlson.

While nonniey is right about the definition of neo cons…and that’s an older strategy. The world changes, politics change, I disagree with his the populist’s view. I really think strategies can’t be evenly applied, imo it should be different in the Middle East, Russia, South America and other places abroad.

There is animosity in the GOP for Bush’s weapons of mass destruction witch hunt. Nothing has ever turned me more off in recent history than that. I really disliked Bush in his second term and actually voted Obama his first term.