2022 Commanders off season thread part 1

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Idk ... after seeing how hard it is to transition from College to NFL at MLB, Id rather fill that spot with a vet FA and use 1st round picks on positions that can step in and contribute right away and are expensive to fill in FA (WR, T, QB, CB, Edge)

Right now you could add one of the best inside LBs in Bobby Wagner as your MLB for 11m/1 year.

We only have about $10M available right now and who knows if he would even want to come here.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

We only have about $10M available right now and who knows if he would even want to come here.

I think the likes of Bobby Wagner and the Honey Badger are still free agents because they may be asking for too much money. And they are probably looking at specific teams as well.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by MTK

We only have about $10M available right now and who knows if he would even want to come here.

Yeah with our current cap, even the bump we get post June 1, id rather use it to extend Terry and find a more affordable vet option at MLB.

I was speaking more in general terms.

Theres positions you can fill in FA for pretty decent decent value (G, C, LB, RB)

Other positions are so much more expensive in FA (QB, WR, CB, T)

LB is kinda middle ground for me. Good ones cost money in FA, not WR/QB/CB/T money but more than G/C/RB.

Im starting to think MLB is a hard jump from college to NFL and you might better be served adding a vet MLB through FA who has already acclimated to the position

vs taking a MLB in the first round, then coaching him up for 1-3 years.

MLB might be the hardest position to go from college to NFL. At QB at least your coaching staff can manage a playbook to a rookie QBs strengths. As a rookie MLB, offensive coordinators get to call the plays and target your weaknesses.

ikd just watching Jamin Davis has been somewhat eye opening

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Yeah with our current cap, even the bump we get post June 1, id rather use it to extend Terry and find a more affordable vet option at MLB.

I was speaking more in general terms.

Theres positions you can fill in FA for pretty decent decent value (G, C, LB, RB)

Other positions are so much more expensive in FA (QB, WR, CB, T)

LB is kinda middle ground for me. Good ones cost money in FA, not WR/QB/CB/T money but more than G/C/RB.

Im starting to think MLB is a hard jump from college to NFL and you might better be served adding a vet MLB through FA who has already acclimated to the position

vs taking a MLB in the first round, then coaching him up for 1-3 years.

MLB might be the hardest position to go from college to NFL. At QB at least your coaching staff can manage a playbook to a rookie QBs strengths. As a rookie MLB, offensive coordinators get to call the plays and target your weaknesses.

ikd just watching Jamin Davis has been somewhat eye opening

Yeah the thing is we were so focused on QBs and WRs big $ contracts going through the roof we didn't realize that LBs contracts took quite the bump too.
Maybe I'm mistaken but I feel like not so long ago it was quite an underpaid position (Maybe Schneed's memory can help me out there ?)... Now per spotrac, only for inside LB, you have 2 guys at 17M+/y, 2 at 14M+/y and a couple more around 10M/y...

Point being, Bobby Wagner coming of 18M/y is probably not a viable option... But what about Schobert, Hitchens, Hightower, Van Noy, Minter, Kwon Alexander, Alec Ogletree etc... They're not all getting 15M+/y, are they ?

I think Mooby just made an excellent point for the need of a proven vet: help Davis on his learning curve. If you're moving Holcomb to MLB this will be a challenge for him, he might be able to do a very decent job because he's smart, but will he be able to give Davis indications/tips when he needs to ?
Moving Holcomb to Mike if we had 2 proven vets as Will and Sam would be one thing, doing so with a second year player who took some strides but didn't specifically shine last year at WLB and God knows who at SLB is a whole other deal...

Again not saying waiting for after the draft is crazy, but you better have some guys you're confident you can sign !

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by MTK

We only have about $10M available right now and who knows if he would even want to come here.

So, it's up to Ron Rivera to get him to listen and to make enough cap space available to sign him.