Parkland Shooting

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

No it's not , I understand the pro gun NRA backers claim it is but at no point does the second Amendment say you have a God given right as an American to own a assault weapon.

- You can twist "shall not be infringed" all you want to, but it doesn't change what it says. Shall not be infringed is as clear as day as to what it means. It means it shall not be infringed. So it literally says exactly what you're saying it doesn't.

U.S. Constitution - Second Amendment | Library of Congresshttps://constitution.congress.gov › amendment-2

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

By your definition every American has the right to own an Atomic Bomb if they want.

- At a cost of around 28 million each (at minimum), I don't think this is a legitimate issue. But way to use the most ridiculous extreme example possible.

The Founder Fathers didn't recognize Women or Blacks so does the 2nd amendment include them, remember all they were talking about were rights of white property owning males? At the time the Constitution was written the US Armed Forces as they do today ,so much for your Militia.

- Is this a serious question? Again it says "the right of the people". It doesn't say the right of white men.

Your attitude assumes the Framers of the Constitution were always right but we know they weren't and we correct their wrongs, their mistakes. This has to be changed.

- Your attitide assumes they were always wrong and must be corrected. Which they actually put a process in place for anyways.

1) Might be a ridiculous example but it makes my point and you can't refute it.
2)You're a smarter person then to try and pull of this "of the people" ,these white planation Owners never mentioned women or blacks in the constitution so you're telling me that even back then all blacks had the right to own guns, women had that right too? If true why did Lincoln have to stop slavery?
3)The Framers of the Constitution talked about what they knew and set it up to grow with the Country as it grew, they weren't wrong it's a living thing and they set it up to be changed as the Country did for the future not a fucking political football for gun nuts to hide behind.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

1) Might be a ridiculous example but it makes my point and you can't refute it.
2)You're a smarter person then to try and pull of this "of the people" ,these white planation Owners never mentioned women or blacks in the constitution so you're telling me that even back then all blacks had the right to own guns, women had that right too? If true why did Lincoln have to stop slavery?
3)The Framers of the Constitution talked about what they knew and set it up to grow with the Country as it grew, they weren't wrong it's a living thing and they set it up to be changed as the Country did for the future not a fucking political football for gun nuts to hide behind.

There is nothing to refute. You can't buy a nuclear bomb anywhere. And 99.99% of all Americans couldn't afford one even if they wanted to. This doesn't offer anything to a real conversation about gun laws in our country.

Again, you can twist the words all you want to fit your narrative. But it says what it says. And this is also irrelevant to having a real conversation about gun laws in our country. Obviously black, brown, neon green, purple, etc. Americans have the same rights to buy a gun as any white person. Same with women. No one I have ever heard argue for our 2nd amendment rights has ever mentioned that this right is only for white mean.

If you want to get rid of guns, get the Constitution amended. That is the process. If you can't do that, then you have to find other solutions.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

There is nothing to refute. You can't buy a nuclear bomb anywhere. And 99.99% of all Americans couldn't afford one even if they wanted to. This doesn't offer anything to a real conversation about gun laws in our country.

Again, you can twist the words all you want to fit your narrative. But it says what it says. And this is also irrelevant to having a real conversation about gun laws in our country. Obviously black, brown, neon green, purple, etc. Americans have the same rights to buy a gun as any white person. Same with women. No one I have ever heard argue for our 2nd amendment rights has ever mentioned that this right is only for white mean.

If you want to get rid of guns, get the Constitution amended. That is the process. If you can't do that, then you have to find other solutions.

Twist words????? Look at your own post's for twisted words . My narrative is the truth and that bothers you but it's the truth. Now those American have rights to buy guns but when the Constitution was written they had no rights, none for years under the very Constitution you scream up holds your rights. they did not, not twisting shit! The NRA will not allow the Constitution to be amended they will call for a civil war and people like you and others will push it no matter how many children die at schools. As for other solutions the republican party NRA will not allow it.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Twist words????? Look at your own post's for twisted words . My narrative is the truth and that bothers you but it's the truth. Now those American have rights to buy guns but when the Constitution was written they had no rights, none for years under the very Constitution you scream up holds your rights. they did not, not twisting shit! The NRA will not allow the Constitution to be amended they will call for a civil war and people like you and others will push it no matter how many children die at schools. As for other solutions the republican party NRA will not allow it.

I don't get what your truth is. You are disregarding or changing the meaning of the 2nd amendment. I have the 2nd amendment as written on my side. You have interpreting the words to fit your narrative on your side.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Of the people: It doesn't say of certain people. It says people. Anything you add, change, or disregard is twisting the words.

Bear Arms: It doesn't say bear certain arms that democrats and fake republicans approve of. Anything you add, change, or disregard is twisting the words.

Shall not be infringed: It means it shall not be infringed. Anything you add, change, or disregard is twisting the words.

You act like you're more reasonable than people that support the 2nd amendment. You don't want debate, you want complete capitulation to the democrats gun laws.