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Old 12-19-2005, 05:24 AM   #1
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

#1 Priority on D: STOP THE RUN. Tiki has been running wild. Take that away and make Eli throw.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:35 PM   #2
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#1 Priority on D: STOP THE RUN. Tiki has been running wild. Take that away and make Eli throw.

EXACTLY! We stop Tiki Barber, we win the game. Its that simple.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:45 PM   #3
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EXACTLY! We stop Tiki Barber, we win the game. Its that simple.
Not sure it is "that simple" but it definitely gives us a much better shot at winning.
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Old 12-19-2005, 09:35 PM   #4
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

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EXACTLY! We stop Tiki Barber, we win the game. Its that simple.
I don't think any D can completely stop Tiki the way he's playing this year. He's such a well conditioned back that he can break one when everybody's worn down. BUT, our D-line is playing much better ball which may allow us to get some coughs/INTs from Eli and maybe even Tiki. We need to convert those opportunities like we did yesterday to win
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

Tiki will break a big run or two, but if our D can keep him out of the end zone and pressure Manning, we can keep Barber from hurting us the way he did last time.

This game's even bigger than the Dallas game, and the fans played a key role. We need the fans to go crazy against the Giants, too. I was at FedEx yesterday, and I hope the fans going Saturday are ready to be just as loud!
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

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I don't think any D can completely stop Tiki the way he's playing this year. He's such a well conditioned back that he can break one when everybody's worn down. BUT, our D-line is playing much better ball which may allow us to get some coughs/INTs from Eli and maybe even Tiki. We need to convert those opportunities like we did yesterday to win
Remember that Tiki put 200+ on us when Cornelius Griffin was hurt. It's obvious that our D is much superior with Grif manning the middle.

Looking at Barber's 2 games against us last year (with Griffin in the lineuup):

18 carries for 42 yards (2.3 average)
15 carries for 38 yards (2.5 average)

Zero TDs for both games. I love our chances against backup tackles in a LOUD FedEx field. Limit Barber, and our D tees off on Eli much as it did against Bledsoe.
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#1 Priority on D: STOP THE RUN. Tiki has been running wild. Take that away and make Eli throw.
Tiki is garbage, hes a overrated running back, running behind a great line.......no if and or buts about it.....
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How to Beat the G-Men

When coaches play against former players they have a great advantage.

We beat Dallas twice because of Williams and the fact that he used to coach Bledsoe.

Remember how we said that Pierce used to do all the defensive play calling for the skins.

The reason that the giants beat us is because they knowor defensive playbook.

The only way that we can beat them is if we change up the D completely for one game and trick them.

I'm concerned about this game.
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:44 AM   #10
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Remember how we said that Pierce used to do all the defensive play calling for the skins.

The reason that the giants beat us is because they knowor defensive playbook.

The only way that we can beat them is if we change up the D completely for one game and trick them.

I'm concerned about this game.
Kinda like in Rocky II when Micky makes Rocky become right handed rather than being a south paw. I like where your going with this idea, it worked for Rocky, it just might work for us!!!
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:12 PM   #11
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Re: How to Beat the G-Men

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When coaches play against former players they have a great advantage.

We beat Dallas twice because of Williams and the fact that he used to coach Bledsoe.

Remember how we said that Pierce used to do all the defensive play calling for the skins.

The reason that the giants beat us is because they knowor defensive playbook.

The only way that we can beat them is if we change up the D completely for one game and trick them.

I'm concerned about this game.
Hm thats right, I totally forgot about that. They know our defensive setups, that must have helped them. Plus didn't they know our offensive plays too via Tim Hassleback? I could be wrong, but I am too lazy to look up their roster right now.
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:16 AM   #12
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

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Tiki is garbage, hes a overrated running back, running behind a great line.......no if and or buts about it.....

I have to disagree on this one WW, Tiki is an outstanding back, behind a decent line, the giant line isn't spectacular, Tiki makes an awful lot happen on his own, he has great second effort after contact, the steroids don't hurt either.
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Old 12-20-2005, 02:41 AM   #13
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Re: How to Beat the G-Men

The obvious is stop Tiki, but having watched Eli, I would flood him with the blitz, he's a QB who would rather throw it up for grabs than give up a sack, I would then put Taylor on Buress, Taylor is the one player that can man up on such a big WR and intimidate him, and jump with him, take away both those options at all costs and I believe the rest of our defense can stop anything else the G-men throw at us, I do believe that Washington can man up with Shockey, we have the players on defense to shut them down, I also think our right side will be much tougher against the run with Griffen in there.

On offense, well I would probably attack there outside with the run, this would be the one game I believe Gibbs should put a blocking back in the backfield with Portis, [probably Cooley] I would then put Sellars in motion and have him earhole there ends all day long to seal the outside, then with a blocking back in front of him let Portis do his thing on the outside against smaller defenders. The Giants biggest threat on defense is their ends, they both can really disrupt the offensive flow, I would have Sellars cracking back on them and just pound on them all game to ware them out. After a few series of that they will worry more about Sellars drilling them from the side than getting upfield then we can start passing. I probably would rather have Sellars in the backfield leading the play, but only if we have a player who can really pound their ends, I don't know if Cooley packs that kind of wolup, possibly Kozlowski.

I believe the rest will take care of itself.
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:45 AM   #14
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The obvious is stop Tiki, but having watched Eli, I would flood him with the blitz, he's a QB who would rather throw it up for grabs than give up a sack, I would then put Taylor on Buress, Taylor is the one player that can man up on such a big WR and intimidate him, and jump with him, take away both those options at all costs and I believe the rest of our defense can stop anything else the G-men throw at us, I do believe that Washington can man up with Shockey, we have the players on defense to shut them down, I also think our right side will be much tougher against the run with Griffen in there.

On offense, well I would probably attack there outside with the run, this would be the one game I believe Gibbs should put a blocking back in the backfield with Portis, [probably Cooley] I would then put Sellars in motion and have him earhole there ends all day long to seal the outside, then with a blocking back in front of him let Portis do his thing on the outside against smaller defenders. The Giants biggest threat on defense is their ends, they both can really disrupt the offensive flow, I would have Sellars cracking back on them and just pound on them all game to ware them out. After a few series of that they will worry more about Sellars drilling them from the side than getting upfield then we can start passing. I probably would rather have Sellars in the backfield leading the play, but only if we have a player who can really pound their ends, I don't know if Cooley packs that kind of wolup, possibly Kozlowski.

I believe the rest will take care of itself.
Actually sounds like a very good gameplan. I'm not especially worried about their linebacking corps with Pierce out. Osi and Strahan are their biggest threats obviously and as you said, cracking back on them would take them right out of the game.
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Re: The G-Men and what we need to do agaisnt them to win.

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Tiki is garbage, hes a overrated running back, running behind a great line.......no if and or buts about it.....
Overrated or not, great line or not, he accounts for a larger percentage of his team's offense than any other player in the NFL. Sounds pretty moronic to just ignore someone like that - just like it'd be stupid to ignore Edgerrin James, Steve Smith, Rudi Johnson or any of the others.

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