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[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Giantone

No I talking about all the call to arms from FOX and the trump republicans to defund the FBI , rhetoric that riles up the mass's and starts BS. I get it ....turn a blind eye.

I'm not turning a blind eye... I just choose to reserve judgment until I know what really happened there. You can jump to your conclusions all you want.

Let's talk about turning a blind eye when fuckers were walking up to policemen in their squad cars and shooting them in the head, while all the left-leaning politicians were stoking the fires with their anti-police rhetoric.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not turning a blind eye... I just choose to reserve judgment until I know what really happened there. You can jump to your conclusions all you want.

Let's talk about turning a blind eye when fuckers were walking up to policemen in their squad cars and shooting them in the head, while all the left-leaning politicians were stoking the fires with their anti-police rhetoric.

Little bit of an overstatement there. It was the right who turn police reform into some sort of attack on police. And the police forces across the country had put on full display a complete and utter need for reform. For years before George Floyd.

On top of that, social inequality is worth fighting for. Not some cunt like Donald Trump.

Also, Chief, almost the entire GOP has come out against the FBI in the last 24 hours. Democrats hardly went that far with “anti police rhetoric “. Killing unarmed black people during routine traffic stops is a little more of a problem than searching the house of one man who apparently has broken many laws. To try and compare the two underlying issues is asinine.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Little bit of an overstatement there. It was the right who turn police reform into some sort of attack on police. And the police forces across the country had put on full display a complete and utter need for reform. For years before George Floyd.

On top of that, social inequality is worth fighting for. Not some cunt like Donald Trump.

That's flat out BS. While the 'right' called it what it was, it was the actions and rhetoric of the 'left' that brought it on.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Also, Chief, almost the entire GOP has come out against the FBI in the last 24 hours. Democrats hardly went that far with “anti police rhetoric “. Killing unarmed black people during routine traffic stops is a little more of a problem than searching the house of one man who apparently has broken many laws. To try and compare the two underlying issues is asinine.

I agree, killing unarmed black people (or any people) during routing traffic stops is more of a problem than searching Trump's residence - the two cannot be compared, nor was I doing so. I'm just saying there is a lot of talk about stoking the fires right now, but no one wanted to admit when the fires were being stoked over the past several years causing innocent law enforcement officers to lose their lives.

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I agree, killing unarmed black people (or any people) during routing traffic stops is more of a problem than searching Trump's residence - the two cannot be compared, nor was I doing so. I'm just saying there is a lot of talk about stoking the fires right now, but no one wanted to admit when the fires were being stoked over the past several years causing innocent law enforcement officers to lose their lives.

And I am saying that alot of that fire was stoked by the extreme right who blew up police reform and turned it into “they don’t support police” because it was politically advantageous. Trying to make the left look like they were anti police. Which is NONSENSE. The extreme right would rather make the left the criminals than address the problem and they could care less about officers losing their lives because of a theme they took to flight.

Never did the left embrace any sort of any anti law enforcement rhetoric- they wanted reform and deservedly so. There is no comparison really in history for the dangerous anti law enforcement rhetoric the GOP has been party to in the last couple days.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

And I am saying that alot of that fire was stoked by the extreme right who blew up police reform and turned it into “they don’t support police” because it was politically advantageous. Trying to make the left look like they were anti police. Which is NONSENSE. The extreme right would rather make the left the criminals than address the problem and they could care less about officers losing their lives because of a theme they took to flight.

Never did the left embrace any sort of any anti law enforcement rhetoric- they wanted reform and deservedly so. There is no comparison really in history for the dangerous anti law enforcement rhetoric the GOP has been party to in the last couple days.

When someone says they want to defund the police, I don't think anything further is required to make them look like they are anti-police.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

When someone says they want to defund the police, I don't think anything further is required to make them look like they are anti-police.

That slogan was started by the Black Visions Collective though Chief. They were a little fed up and for good reason. Not the Democratic politicians. It is the GOP who is spouting dangerous rhetoric now. And very swiftly those democrats were like pump the breaks. We need police. Just not bad ones. Training and more pay so they weren’t overworked and short tempered etc. The Left has actually worked very hard to fund the police departments for reform. But like i said that is all lost in the smoke and mirrors from the extreme right. In the immediate aftermath of George Floyd some Dems definitely ran with that moniker. Not the entire fucking party minus Liz Cheaney. Lol. It’s apples and oranges man.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

And I am saying that alot of that fire was stoked by the extreme right who blew up police reform and turned it into “they don’t support police” because it was politically advantageous. Trying to make the left look like they were anti police. Which is NONSENSE. The extreme right would rather make the left the criminals than address the problem and they could care less about officers losing their lives because of a theme they took to flight.

Never did the left embrace any sort of any anti law enforcement rhetoric- they wanted reform and deservedly so. There is no comparison really in history for the dangerous anti law enforcement rhetoric the GOP has been party to in the last couple days.

This is the gaslighting statement of the year. This absolute horseshit. In fact Biden has hired many defund the police allies in his own administration. Here take a look at the statements by democrat legislators:

https://rsc-banks.house.gov/democrat...-defund-police

My god, do you need me to post the cities that did defund the police and their crime stats? These shithole communities adopted it and then lead to historic gun crime. Philadelphia, Baltimore, LA, Rochester NY, Chicago, Milwaukee, Portland, Seattle…they got blood on their hands.

Here you go, roll the tape back:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep...-defund-police

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

This is the gaslighting statement of the year. This absolute horseshit. In fact Biden has hired many defund the police allies in his own administration. Here take a look at the statements by democrat legislators:

https://rsc-banks.house.gov/democrat...-defund-police

My god, do you need me to post the cities that did defund the police and their crime stats? These shithole communities adopted it and then lead to historic gun crime. Philadelphia, Baltimore, LA, Rochester NY, Chicago, Milwaukee, Portland, Seattle…they got blood on their hands.

Here you go, roll the tape back:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep...-defund-police

Amusing as always.
Portland is burning!
Hate those “urban” shit hole communities too! Spoken like a god damn good little Trumper.
Such nonsense. Proof is in the pudding pal not a fox news mash up. EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTED AGAINST FUNDING THE POLICE. THE END.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not turning a blind eye... I just choose to reserve judgment until I know what really happened there. You can jump to your conclusions all you want.

Let's talk about turning a blind eye when fuckers were walking up to policemen in their squad cars and shooting them in the head, while all the left-leaning politicians were stoking the fires with their anti-police rhetoric.

This and it still happening ^

Boom

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not turning a blind eye... I just choose to reserve judgment until I know what really happened there. You can jump to your conclusions all you want.

Let's talk about turning a blind eye when fuckers were walking up to policemen in their squad cars and shooting them in the head, while all the left-leaning politicians were stoking the fires with their anti-police rhetoric.

My next door neighbor's son did that about 3-4 years ago to an Alexandria bike cop, I disagreed with his decision then and I still do now.

Everybody wants things to be so black and white - when in reality we absolutely need police and law and order, but we also need police to do a better job in certain circumstances and we also need them to be held accountable when necessary. Nobody wants to have that conversation though, you either buy a thin blue line flag and stfu when a cop kneels on a guy's neck for 9 minutes for no reason or you need to go join the BLM protests for wanting innocent black people to stop being harassed for no reason.

I also find it hilarious the pro-law enforcement crowd is so quick to their defense only to howl about unfair treatment when their favorite politician's house gets raided because he still won't return all the fucking classified info despite signing a bill that makes it a felony in his first year in office.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

My next door neighbor's son did that about 3-4 years ago to an Alexandria bike cop, I disagreed with his decision then and I still do now.

Everybody wants things to be so black and white - when in reality we absolutely need police and law and order, but we also need police to do a better job in certain circumstances and we also need them to be held accountable when necessary. Nobody wants to have that conversation though, you either buy a thin blue line flag and stfu when a cop kneels on a guy's neck for 9 minutes for no reason or you need to go join the BLM protests for wanting innocent black people to stop being harassed for no reason.

I also find it hilarious the pro-law enforcement crowd is so quick to their defense only to howl about unfair treatment when their favorite politician's house gets raided because he still won't return all the fucking classified info despite signing a bill that makes it a felony in his first year in office.

I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I agree with this 100 percent.

I am pro law enforcement. It's a tough job man, and I'm glad there are still men and women willing to do it. I also know there are bad cops, and cops who make mistakes, but they don't represent the majority. I have friends who are cops, whose wives wonder if they'll be the next cop targeted, and I have friends who are black, whose wives worry if they or their kids will come home every time they leave the house. Not being either, I can't truly know how that feels, but I know it's a problem worth having the conversations about.

I’ve still never met or known anyone about who defends the cop who killed George Floyd, yet I’ve met a lot of folks and know personally some who believe cops kill people daily for no reason and the majority of the police are corrupt.

That’s the big problem, because once you present them with the facts, they refuse to believe the data.

And to add, there are still terrible police out there..and anyone who is a cop and abusing that authority should be locked up after being prosecuted to the fullest. No exceptions. The DOJ should be vetting out departments that have systematic issues, that breed corrupt practices

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I’ve still never met or known anyone about who defends the cop who killed George Floyd, yet I’ve met a lot of folks and know personally some who believe cops kill people daily for no reason and the majority of the police are corrupt.

Carlson replied: "So, they destroy the city, they put this cop in prison for the rest of his life. We all have to pretend he committed murder, which he didn't, but whatever, we have to pretend it, and then they leave and they move on to the next thing to destroy. So perfect."
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carl...-floyd-1730298

Political affiliation emerged as the most divisive dictator of opinions on the trial’s outcome, with 90% of Democrats saying jurors reached the right verdict, while a slim majority (54%) of Republicans said the same.

Nearly half (46%) of the Republicans surveyed felt the jury had come to the wrong decision in convicting Chauvin of murder versus just 10% of Democrats and 25% of Independents who thought the verdict was wrong.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimam...h=430a3b1366e8

I think you may be more left than most Rs on this one Chico. The poll .. only 2.5k polled and there is a difference in "was floyd murdered" vs "was guilty verdict correct". so it is what it is

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Carlson replied: "So, they destroy the city, they put this cop in prison for the rest of his life. We all have to pretend he committed murder, which he didn't, but whatever, we have to pretend it, and then they leave and they move on to the next thing to destroy. So perfect."
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carl...-floyd-1730298

Political affiliation emerged as the most divisive dictator of opinions on the trial’s outcome, with 90% of Democrats saying jurors reached the right verdict, while a slim majority (54%) of Republicans said the same.

Nearly half (46%) of the Republicans surveyed felt the jury had come to the wrong decision in convicting Chauvin of murder versus just 10% of Democrats and 25% of Independents who thought the verdict was wrong.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimam...h=430a3b1366e8

I think you may be more left than most Rs on this one Chico. The poll .. only 2.5k polled and there is a difference in "was floyd murdered" vs "was guilty verdict correct". so it is what it is

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Murder = premeditation…I think that what Tucker is emphasizing here. Eh, I don’t hear any defense of the police action. Newsweek is shit source to be honest, here they are spreading fake news propaganda about the raid:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/newswe...bis-trump-raid

Only to have Garland come out and say he did.

So the poll you posted have the majority on both sides agreeing, which is great.
Here is Michael Brown poll after they correctly didn’t indict the officer that shot him after Eric holder carried his ass back to Washington agreeing Michael Brown getting shot didn’t warrant charges against the officer:

https://time.com/3613454/ferguson-poll-racial-partisan/

More than three-quarters of Republicans agreed that Wilson shouldn’t have been charged, while 27% of Democrats agreed. It’s like Democrats don’t care these hero’s patrolling the streets nor the facts of the case.