Commanders Regular Season Thread vol 1

[Chief X_Phackter]

At first I was not happy about bringing back Bostic. I wanted to see a 'sexier' move. But after further review, I'm not sure any of the other LBs who were or are available would have been a much bigger upgrade, and maybe not a good fit - which is important. We're talking about a backup / part time LB here. Bostic is capable, familiar with a lot of the players/coaches, and he knows the system.

Health is always a big factor, but on paper, it's probably as good or a better defensive roster than what they had in 2020 when they were top 5.

BTW, nobody has a starting caliber LB waiting on the bench. There's a reason all these LBs everyone keeps mentioning are still out there.

[AnonEmouse]

Martinez is available now. Not saying he'd be some kind of saviour, and maybe the Giants know something about his health/injury recovery that's not public knowledge, but I'd at least give him a once over/physical at this stage. If he is healthy I'd say he offers more upside than Bostic at least.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Martinez is available now. Not saying he'd be some kind of saviour, and maybe the Giants know something about his health/injury recovery that's not public knowledge, but I'd at least give him a once over/physical at this stage. If he is healthy I'd say he offers more upside than Bostic at least.

Think the giants just got a younger guy and the money mAde sense. Martinez healthy is awesome- with one leg still better than Bostic. It would be insanity not to bring him in. Imo.

[Onaroll]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Think the giants just got a younger guy and the money mAde sense. Martinez healthy is awesome- with one leg still better than Bostic. It would be insanity not to bring him in. Imo.

Uh yeah!
What I like about some GM's, the worst that can happen on these type visits, is you pay for the Ribeye meal.

It won't hurt, you be patient on the leg, and give him another week with it, more time with First team D, float a LB to PS or even waiver. If he's not all that even, after a healing process within this season, say bye, Pencil in a LB later and one upgrade in 1st Rd 2023.

428 Solo over 600 "combined" TKLs. 39 TFL 3.5 or so Sks a yr 2017 to 2020 and before injury. That is very good considering Holcomb and Davis on other side, makes their game tick upwards. He's NOT old. This is yr 7

Balanced game, but his RILB position is his style

[Onaroll]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Martinez is available now. Not saying he'd be some kind of saviour, and maybe the Giants know something about his health/injury recovery that's not public knowledge, but I'd at least give him a once over/physical at this stage. If he is healthy I'd say he offers more upside than Bostic at least.

Got another on DeJon Harris who signed yesterday and to me, he is going to man that middle and outside, when needed. He got game, vision, and great timing to slow / Stop plays! Good base to hold ground, fights off blocks while being upright and under linemen. Makes a bee line to ball carrier, but keeps his tackle zone wide to adjust to ball carrier moves. Goal Line striker for sure!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Onaroll

Got another on DeJon Harris who signed yesterday and to me, he is going to man that middle and outside, when needed. He got game, vision, and great timing to slow / Stop plays! Good base to hold ground, fights off blocks while being upright and under linemen. Makes a bee line to ball carrier, but keeps his tackle zone wide to adjust to ball carrier moves. Goal Line striker for sure!

This is oddly specific. Are you friends with DeJon Harris? His agent maybe?

I'm happy they're bringing guys in, but let's not pretend like it doesn't take time to learn the system. Time to learn how to ID plays quickly enough to make a play. Bringing in a guy this late means the odds of him making an immediate impact are slim.

[Onaroll]

Originally Posted by mooby

This is oddly specific. Are you friends with DeJon Harris? His agent maybe?

I'm happy they're bringing guys in, but let's not pretend like it doesn't take time to learn the system. Time to learn how to ID plays quickly enough to make a play. Bringing in a guy this late means the odds of him making an immediate impact are slim.

But Mooby we are almost pathetic in that room. Maybe they're seeing what sticks to the wall. If that's the case, I'd take either Bostic or Martinez, but sadly, he could still out perform both, at least to get the ST backed so as to move Bostic forward , maybe.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Would he go inside then, and kick Holcomb back outside? I'm not sure of the fit, if they like Holcomb as the Mike.

[Onaroll]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Would he go inside then, and kick Holcomb back outside? I'm not sure of the fit, if they like Holcomb as the Mike.

Marinez got game. Can balance good production on either side and is ACTIVE around the ball.

[punch it in]

Holcomb is a jag imo. But either of them are better than Bostic regardless of where they line up.

[punch it in]

We have alot of question marks.

QB - huge question mark.
RB - Gibson cant hold on to the ball. BR is obviously on hold.
WR - should be ok - but Samuels is always one fart away from an injury, Dotson looks like he maybe the real deal though he is a rook, Sims is a question mark.
O - line should be ok.
DL - should be ok.
LB’s -
K - meh.
TE - will LT return to form? Can anyone else step up if not?
DB’s - big what if.

Just a whole lot of what if’s.
I know we kid about code reds but the first two weeks are so important. If we cant beat them with a mainly healthy team we are in deep doo doo as the season gets more difficult and the injuries increase. We win the first two and maybe a nice boost of confidence will spark us.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Almost every team, if not every team, has question marks and "what if's" somewhere. While I respect your opinion, I don't think we are as bad off as you do.

Here's my assessment:

On offense, RB is the only question mark thanks to those DC hoodlums. That said, Gibson, McKissic, and Williams are more than capable of handling the load. Just depends on if AG puts the ball on the ground or not.

QB, WR, OL, TE - all good.

We are in such a better place at QB this year than last. Wentz is a major upgrade, whether people want to believe that or not. He's had two not-so-great years - his rookie year, and 2020 on a bad Philly team (it's hard to be a good QB when you are sacked 50 times in 12 games) Their O-line was absolutely terrible. Other than that it's been like 27-33 TDs / 7 INTs per year.

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On defense, literally the only weak link I see (and I'm not even sure it is yet) is the LB group. Holcomb in the middle, and Davis in year two and in his more natural position may be the ticket. We won't know for a couple weeks.

CB, S, DL, DE - all good

We're deep in the secondary in my opinion, especially at safety, and a couple of those safeties can also play CB in a pinch.

D line should be one of the best in the league. DE, especially once Young comes back should be good.

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I think if the O-line stays healthy and is as good as it has been the last couple years, there's no reason this team can't put up 25+ points per game. Doing that and staying on the field more will only help the defense. This is at least a 10 win team - if they stay relatively healthy.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Almost every team, if not every team, has question marks and "what if's" somewhere. While I respect your opinion, I don't think we are as bad off as you do.



Here's my assessment:



On offense, RB is the only question mark thanks to those DC hoodlums. That said, Gibson, McKissic, and Williams are more than capable of handling the load. Just depends on if AG puts the ball on the ground or not.



QB, WR, OL, TE - all good.



We are in such a better place at QB this year than last. Wentz is a major upgrade, whether people want to believe that or not. He's had two not-so-great years - his rookie year, and 2020 on a bad Philly team (it's hard to be a good QB when you are sacked 50 times in 12 games) Their O-line was absolutely terrible. Other than that it's been like 27-33 TDs / 7 INTs per year.



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On defense, literally the only weak link I see (and I'm not even sure it is yet) is the LB group. Holcomb in the middle, and Davis in year two and in his more natural position may be the ticket. We won't know for a couple weeks.



CB, S, DL, DE - all good



We're deep in the secondary in my opinion, especially at safety, and a couple of those safeties can also play CB in a pinch.



D line should be one of the best in the league. DE, especially once Young comes back should be good.



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I think if the O-line stays healthy and is as good as it has been the last couple years, there's no reason this team can't put up 25+ points per game. Doing that and staying on the field more will only help the defense. This is at least a 10 win team - if they stay relatively healthy.

A part from the LB squad I agree with everything you said. This is why I kinda go bonkers on Bostic, cuz I think they did a good job overall this offseason, but now on top of having no possibility to play a decent 4-3 if we need to, we have zero depth.
But hey, maybe Holcomb and Davis can do the job and if they don't get injured, and the nickel works 95% of the time, we don't have to see Bostic cover that much...

Anyway, we'll see, I don't think it's all doom and gloom, we have a talented roster. Just hope that self inflected Achilles heel doesn't receive any well shot arrow.

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[punch it in]

Question mark doesn’t necessarily mean bad. Just that Im not going to say we are all good there until I see it.

I don’t really disagree with anything you said either, though I think DB’s are a little less promising than you do.

I sure hope you are right, and I am wrong. Deep down inside I sense a 6-7 win season. But on the surface I am brimming with confidence and sense a 10 win miracle season that takes us into the playoffs. Lol. Its why they play the game.

[Onaroll]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Question mark doesn’t necessarily mean bad. Just that Im not going to say we are all good there until I see it.

I don’t really disagree with anything you said either, though I think DB’s are a little less promising than you do.

I sure hope you are right, and I am wrong. Deep down inside I sense a 6-7 win season. But on the surface I am brimming with confidence and sense a 10 win miracle season that takes us into the playoffs. Lol. Its why they play the game.

If I see ghastly Wide Open TE's in open spots and DB's chasing WR's I will consider them the second coming of the Pearl Harbor Crew and look to low single digit wins this year , for a rousing qualification of a 5th 1st Rd or higher pick.


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