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Old 09-19-2022, 11:37 AM   #1
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Holcomb, Jackson, Rivera , JDR - all stink.
Our offensive line is trash too.

This team isn’t winning more than 5 games.
The schedule is soft, they'll win 6 or 7 games and Ron should be fired right after the season
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Old 09-20-2022, 08:04 AM   #2
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Holcomb, Jackson, Rivera , JDR - all stink.
Our offensive line is trash too.

This team isn’t winning more than 5 games.
holcomb does not stink he is playing out of positon, this is all on rivera because he constructed this team being the head coach and GM.
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Old 09-19-2022, 11:14 AM   #3
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I think JDR gets time to try some adjustments and see if he can turn this around.

He did figure out (kinda) the 3rd and long issue after 4 or so weeks last season.

Run D .. was not on my list of anticipated issues entering this season. Run D and Terry have been our only 2 consistent strong features past couple years.
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Old 09-19-2022, 11:31 AM   #4
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Re: Lions postgame

https://twitter.com/RiggosRag/status...C49ZCgw88rAAAA

Ben Standig said he heard from the Lions' beat guy that the Lions players including St. Brown told him they had a really easy beat on the defense. They could see on tape there were certain offensive formations that confused the defenders among them they were confident that the fly sweep would work on this defense. And St. Brown said he could see when he had the ball on the sweep thst no one recognized on the defense he had the ball until it was too late.

I recently heard from someone on one our message boards that Jay Gruden once said (paraphrased), "Del Rio is one of the easiest defensive coordinators to scheme against. He doesn't try to trick you."
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Old 09-19-2022, 06:12 PM   #5
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Ben Standig said he heard from the Lions' beat guy that the Lions players including St. Brown told him they had a really easy beat on the defense. They could see on tape there were certain offensive formations that confused the defenders among them they were confident that the fly sweep would work on this defense. And St. Brown said he could see when he had the ball on the sweep thst no one recognized on the defense he had the ball until it was too late.

I recently heard from someone on one our message boards that Jay Gruden once said (paraphrased), "Del Rio is one of the easiest defensive coordinators to scheme against. He doesn't try to trick you."
This... See the Redskins vs Raiders game in 2017.
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Old 09-19-2022, 12:05 PM   #6
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Re: Lions postgame

Get some positivity here on a moody Monday

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/9/19/...nse-yes-really

Not surprising. Running game is bad. Not blaming Gibson here. O-line anyone?
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Old 09-19-2022, 12:44 PM   #7
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Get some positivity here on a moody Monday

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/9/19/...nse-yes-really

Not surprising. Running game is bad. Not blaming Gibson here. O-line anyone?
About the Oline and blocking, it’s seems to be a better pass protection line than a run blocking line. Schreff was a road grading run blocker. Cosmi seems to be better at pass pro than getting out on the run. Flowers seemed like a better run blocker than protection guy. I think it’s personal and a decision to regard pass protection over run blocking. I dunno, just a thought.

The defense needs Chase Young back, we need a playmaker out there to help.
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About the Oline and blocking, it’s seems to be a better pass protection line than a run blocking line. Schreff was a road grading run blocker. Cosmi seems to be better at pass pro than getting out on the run. Flowers seemed like a better run blocker than protection guy. I think it’s personal and a decision to regard pass protection over run blocking. I dunno, just a thought.

The defense needs Chase Young back, we need a playmaker out there to help.
I imagine our WRs make them better at pass pro too, but yeah definitely think there has been a transition towards pass pro
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JDR is absolute garbage and we need to hire a more aggressive DC
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Old 09-19-2022, 01:52 PM   #10
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Re: Lions postgame

Eagles open as 4 point favorites next week..

I know it's early but with this defense I just don't see how we will stop that Offense.
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Old 09-19-2022, 01:56 PM   #11
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Eagles open as 4 point favorites next week..

I know it's early but with this defense I just don't see how we will stop that Offense.
Hurts is going to run for 227 yards.
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Hurts is going to run for 227 yards.

I’ll probably catch the 4th Qtr again like yesterday. I’m not spending my whole sunday watching these guys anymore. At the end of the day, they don’t effect our personal lives and we as fans need to just accept that we suck and will most likely lose most of our games. I don’t even get mad anymore


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Old 09-19-2022, 02:06 PM   #13
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Sports radio pontificated on going 5 down linemen to stop the run.

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Is the point of playing the corners 10 yards off the LOS .. to try and keep the plays in front of them and have the corners collapse/close in quickly? Give up the short underneath stuff but dont let guys get behind you?

If we had a good run D I can see the point, the bend dont break D, make them go 10 plays down field knowing a penalty or turnover or a 3rd and long will kill the drive.

8.0 yds per carry by Lions for 191 run yds. Yeah kinda skewed bc of a 58 yard sweep run by a WR and Swift had a 50 yarder

6.8 yds per carry by Jags.

If we arent stopping the run ... playing the corners back to "keep everything in front of you, give up the short stuff but dont get beat deep" approach might not work. If teams can get 8 yards on a 1st down run .. their playbook is wide open to get creative, take shots.

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Go 5 down lineman ... or go man aggressive on the outside, bring Forrest into the box and stop the run, take the chance of getting beat deep.
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Old 09-19-2022, 02:09 PM   #14
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Per JP Findlay, Roullier to short-term IR. This is terrible news.
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Old 09-19-2022, 02:15 PM   #15
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Per JP Findlay, Roullier to short-term IR. This is terrible news.


Larsen on IR, Schweitzer hurt ...

I guess we call up Toth. Ismael was released, resigned and then released a few weeks ago on IR with an injury settlement.

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