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Old 12-04-2022, 05:13 PM   #1
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Do you really think TH is Lamar or Mike Vick ? TH is shit man ; it’s amazing we have the record we do with him
That's a fallacious and irrelevant response. Heinicke runs 4.56 40 which is more than fast enough for a QB to be threat with his legs.
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Old 12-04-2022, 05:34 PM   #2
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That's a fallacious and irrelevant response. Heinicke runs 4.56 40 which is more than fast enough for a QB to be threat with his legs.
Ok whatever, being straight in a fast line is much different then scrambling ability
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Ok whatever, being straight in a fast line is much different then scrambling ability
For one, he's shown he can scramble. Lastly, you're not or rarely scrambling on designed run plays.
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For one, he's shown he can scramble. Lastly, you're not or rarely scrambling on designed run plays.
Plain and simple he is not a very good QB, no other team in the nfl would start him
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Plain and simple he is not a very good QB, no other team in the nfl would start him
Maybe not. But you use him towards his strengths. Learn the game.
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Maybe not. But you use him towards his strengths. Learn the game.
Pork, I like you and I'm glad you post here, but you make too many posts that imply that if you don't agree, whoever you disagree with, is flat out wrong and needs to learn the game. You don't have a monopoly on football knowledge.
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Pork, I like you and I'm glad you post here, but you make too many posts that imply that if you don't agree, whoever you disagree with, is flat out wrong and needs to learn the game. You don't have a monopoly on football knowledge.
I can say what I wanna say when I see fit. He doesn't know the game if he uses an example of Vick and Jackson when it comes to using or not using Heinicke per RPO.

If you're gonna play someone then play said player to their strengths. We're not doing that with Heinicke.
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Maybe not. But you use him towards his strengths. Learn the game.
I agree with this. I don't think Scott Turner is doing enough to set the players in position to make plays.
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I agree with this. I don't think Scott Turner is doing enough to set the players in position to make plays.
It's weird, because I feel like we have no less than league average receivers and an above average RB room. But offense is still brutal to watch most times.

I rotate blame on that between the QBs/Turner/OLine.

Our offensive line at pass protection makes it very difficult for not great OC or QBs to be successful.

OLine should be the No. 1 off-season focus. Then base the draft around how the pre-draft off-season went.
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I agree with this. I don't think Scott Turner is doing enough to set the players in position to make plays.
Does Heinicke has the arm strength of Hurts, Mariotta, or Daniel Jones? Nope. But he has more than enough athleticism to even periodically use him on RPO action. Make the defense honor him. One hesitation or false step by the end, backers, and/or safeties can result in reasonable to sizeable yardage.

Stop trying to routinely fancy him as some sort of drop back passer. Drop him him back periodically to keep the defense honest, but mix it up and allow Heinicke to use his legs.
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