Sean Taylor going to the Pro Bowl!

[Ade Jimoh Fan Club]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Wrong charlie!!!
One Koren Robinson is on the team in the same season he came back from a drug suspension and rehab. That thought contrdicts the thought that he wasn't character enough. He got left off because he doesn't play the media game so he doesn't get the media props he deserves.

Don't read too much into it, dude - I simply don't want any gangstas representing MY Redskins in the Pro Bowl, despite their talent. I want guys like Daryl Green, Art Monk, Clinton Portis (aka class acts) representing us. Guys like Santana Moss, who have turned it around on and off the field - I'm all for that! To me, it doesn't matter how many guys we send; it's quality not quantity.

I understand that the Pro Bowl Selection Committe doesn't give a purple poop about character or offseason gunfights. I guess that even though I'm a HUGE fan of ST (on the field), I'm still very, very disappointed in how he handled himself off the field. It's not forgotten. ST got some room for improvement yet!

[Ade Jimoh Fan Club]

Also, everyone always gets in a tizzy after the list comes out, but there's a lot more reasons to NOT have Redskins on the team:

1) They could get hurt
2) A lot of the players have pay incentives if they make the Pro Bowl. This means less room in the cap to bring in that stud DE everyone keeps jacking about.
3) It gives them a reason to work harder next year

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

Also, everyone always gets in a tizzy after the list comes out, but there's a lot more reasons to NOT have Redskins on the team:

1) They could get hurt
2) A lot of the players have pay incentives if they make the Pro Bowl. This means less room in the cap to bring in that stud DE everyone keeps jacking about.
3) It gives them a reason to work harder next year

Do incentives like that count against the cap?

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

2) A lot of the players have pay incentives if they make the Pro Bowl. This means less room in the cap to bring in that stud DE everyone keeps jacking about.

Generally, incentives don't count against the cap. They just take money out of the owners pocket.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Generally, incentives don't count against the cap. They just take money out of the owners pocket.

I don't know this for a fact, but I would imagine that increases one's base salary as well.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I don't know this for a fact, but I would imagine that increases one's base salary as well.

To be a little more specific, incentives that are not LTBE(likely to be earned) do not count against the cap. Since Taylor has never made a Pro Bowl, that would be a non LTBE incentive, and not count against the cap.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

To be a little more specific, incentives that are not LTBE(likely to be earned) do not count against the cap. Since Taylor has never made a Pro Bowl, that would be a non LTBE incentive, and not count against the cap.

Money made in incentives do count against cap as bonus money, otherwise every owner and their mother would be dishing out incentives to keep good players. I mean can you imagine ab incentive like get "1 INT" for top caliber CB?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

Don't read too much into it, dude - I simply don't want any gangstas representing MY Redskins in the Pro Bowl, despite their talent. I want guys like Daryl Green, Art Monk, Clinton Portis (aka class acts) representing us. Guys like Santana Moss, who have turned it around on and off the field - I'm all for that! To me, it doesn't matter how many guys we send; it's quality not quantity.

I understand that the Pro Bowl Selection Committe doesn't give a purple poop about character or offseason gunfights. I guess that even though I'm a HUGE fan of ST (on the field), I'm still very, very disappointed in how he handled himself off the field. It's not forgotten. ST got some room for improvement yet!

I really don't want to start this discussion again, but what makes you think Sean Taylor is a gangsta.

He wasn't convicted of anything yet.

[Ade Jimoh Fan Club]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I really don't want to start this discussion again, but what makes you think Sean Taylor is a gangsta.

He wasn't convicted of anything yet.

Why would he put himself in that kind of situation?? Agreed he's not been convicted, but if you think he made "role model" decisions that night, we need to talk...


WWAMD?
What Would Art Monk Do?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

Why would he put himself in that kind of situation?? Agreed he's not been convicted, but if you think he made "role model" decisions that night, we need to talk...


WWAMD?
What Would Art Monk Do?

Well, there have been times when I haven't made role model decisions. In fact, I could probably share some shocking things about my past, yet if you met me in person you'd think I was pretty cool dude.

All I am saying is, I think we use the word "thug" and "gangsta" very loosely. Especially when we really don't know the person for ourselves. I think if there's a consistent pattern of the same behaviour, then perhaps one could be called a gangsta or whatever. I'm in no way excusing or defending what appears to have happened with Sean this summer. But one incident hardly qualifies, in my mind, Sean Taylor or anyone else as a gangsta.

But then again, maybe we have two totally different definitions of a gangsta.

Bottom line, I think we both love Sean playing for our team and want him here for as long as he can stay.

I'm pretty confident he'll represent the Redskins in many Pro-Bowls and do it with class.

[Ade Jimoh Fan Club]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well, there have been times when I haven't made role model decisions. In fact, I could probably share some shocking things about my past, yet if you met me in person you'd think I was pretty cool dude.

All I am saying is, I think we use the word "thug" and "gangsta" very loosely. Especially when we really don't know the person for ourselves. I think if there's a consistent pattern of the same behaviour, then perhaps one could be called a gangsta or whatever. I'm in no way excusing or defending what appears to have happened with Sean this summer. But one incident hardly qualifies, in my mind, Sean Taylor or anyone else as a gangsta.

But then again, maybe we have two totally different definitions of a gangsta.

Bottom line, I think we both love Sean playing for our team and want him here for as long as he can stay.

I'm pretty confident he'll represent the Redskins in many Pro-Bowls and do it with class.

Here! Here! (or is it Hear! Hear!?) - can't argue with any of that - well said numero 12. :headbange

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

Here! Here! (or is it Hear! Hear!?) - can't argue with any of that - well said numero 12. :headbange

My man!

[Skins_4_Lyfe]

It is clear that whoever started this thread is aware that Sean Taylor is a much better player than Roy Williams or else he wouldn't have pointed this out.

If I were a Cowboys fan I wouldn't be a fan of Roy Williams because he plays for the Redskins. Oops, I thought he was trying to block for Santana because it doesn't look like he was trying to cover him.

You idiot, he's the reason that we swept you'll!

[backrow]

Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

Why would he put himself in that kind of situation?? Agreed he's not been convicted, but if you think he made "role model" decisions that night, we need to talk...


WWAMD?
What Would Art Monk Do?

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

AJFC, I believe you have hit upon the real reason why S. Taylor isn't in the PB this year!

Voters must have remembered that off-season incident, and voted for someone else without looking at his on-the-field actions!

:happybday Jesus! :happybday Jesus!

[skindogger47]

Ask Terry Glenn who is better. He'll probably lie and say Roy Williams, but he'll flinch when you mention the name Sean Taylor.