Ron Rivera

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I pretty much agree with you on all of this. I don't really care if RR knew or realized the playoff scenarios. I'd rather him be figuring out the game plan than worrying about things he has no control over.

With the QB choice, you're right, the choices were not good. If Howell was the answer he would have been playing weeks ago. There's no good choice between CW and TH. Perhaps TH could have pulled out that game, and maybe not. Maybe he could have come in after the first half and provided a spark, and maybe not. I wanted CW to start, because I thought he had the most upside. The two at their best, I don't think it's a close race with regard to who is the better QB. Fact is, Heinicke hadn't won a must win game in over a month... What makes anyone think that was going to change on Sunday?

Oh well, another offseason of hopes and dreams... At least it looks like we'll have a new owner at some point. For me that makes up for anything that happened or didn't happen this year. There is some real change to look forward to.

As a QB1 skill wise I 100% agree with you. I loath TH; not the person just the whole fools gold that he is and how he alters decisions on draft day or gives leadership the false sense of security they are set at QB (now hopefully they see it). Even worst then him was Haskins; if we had never drafted him we would have gone Tau or Herbert in the draft over CY.

With that said there is something about TH that fires up the rest of this team they rally behind him; it is a intangible. I believe CW pound for pound skill wise is better then TH but come mid 3rd quarter last Sunday RR should have pulled the TH intangible out and see how the team responded.

Liston to this Robinson interview its very telling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH7XgbK-ZD0

He admits they were lacking energy; that is the intangible TH brings!

Its all hindsight at this point but my takeaway was CW as starter was the right call but his leash needed to be much much shorter; what did RR have to lose by pulling CW its not like he is Rogers and you want keep him happy. Keeping CW in too long last Sunday was RR's biggest error of the day maybe the season.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mredskins

As a QB1 skill wise I 100% agree with you. I loath TH; not the person just the whole fools gold that he is and how he alters decisions on draft day or gives leadership the false sense of security they are set at QB (now hopefully they see it). Even worst then him was Haskins; if we had never drafted him we would have gone Tau or Herbert in the draft over CY.

With that said there is something about TH that fires up the rest of this team they rally behind him; it is a intangible. I believe CW pound for pound skill wise is better then TH but come mid 3rd quarter last Sunday RR should have pulled the TH intangible out and see how the team responded.

Liston to this Robinson interview its very telling:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH7XgbK-ZD0

He admits they were lacking energy; that is the intangible TH brings!

Its all hindsight at this point but my takeaway was CW as starter was the right call but his leash needed to be much much shorter; what did RR have to lose by pulling CW its not like he is Rogers and you want keep him happy. Keeping CW in too long last Sunday was RR's biggest error of the day maybe the season.

I'm not sure what to make of the fact that they were lacking energy, but you can say that about the first NYG game for sure, and probably the other two games before the Cleveland game. and TH started and played through all those games.

I get it, he's gritty, brings the intangibles...whatever you want to call it, it wasn't working for over a month. I'm not going to fantasize that it was going to be the difference in the Cleveland game down by 10 going into the 4th quarter. It's all speculation at this point.

Coaching, lack of energy, whatever, but we can't let the defense off the hook either. They gave up the following drives in the second half:

6 plays, 63 yards - TD
12 plays 84 yards - TD
9 plays, 75 yards - TD

I'm not sure TH or CW had anything to do with that...

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'm not sure what to make of the fact that they were lacking energy, but you can say that about the first NYG game for sure, and probably the other two games before the Cleveland game. and TH started and played through all those games.

I get it, he's gritty, brings the intangibles...whatever you want to call it, it wasn't working for over a month. I'm not going to fantasize that it was going to be the difference in the Cleveland game down by 10 going into the 4th quarter. It's all speculation at this point.

Coaching, lack of energy, whatever, but we can't let the defense off the hook either. They gave up the following drives in the second half:

6 plays, 63 yards - TD
12 plays 84 yards - TD
9 plays, 75 yards - TD

I'm not sure TH or CW had anything to do with that...

All good points. Its synergy of the points we made that eventually lead to the loss.