Sam howell takes Down Dallas postgame

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So who is starting? Is there a FA you want? Who are we trading up for and what are we giving up?

We got plenty of time and a lot of the options available are still unknown.

id prefer

1. Adding a functional tier 2 vet QB, Carr being the bottom of that tier. I do not want to go the Wentz/Fitzpatrick route of adding a non functional vet. I know Carr isnt popular but hes functional. Something we havent had since Cousins.

^^ probably not likely as these guys rarely are made available during their functional years. I dont want a old vet like Matt Ryan, a former functional QB who is now no functional.

2. Trade up in the draft for one of the 4 top 10 QB prospects.

3. Ride Howell, go one game below .500, and have this same discussion next year.

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Easier to say what I dont want.

I want out of the mediocrity death roll.

Guys like Allen/Terry make it impossible to lose 12 or more games, but no QB makes it impossible to go to the playoffs.

I dont need another Sweat or Jamin Davis.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

We got plenty of time and a lot of the options available are still unknown.

id prefer

1. Adding a functional tier 2 vet QB, Carr being the bottom of that tier. I do not want to go the Wentz/Fitzpatrick route of adding a non functional vet. I know Carr isnt popular but hes functional. Something we havent had since Cousins.

^^ probably not likely as these guys rarely are made available during their functional years. I dont want a old vet like Matt Ryan, a former functional QB who is now no functional.

2. Trade up in the draft for one of the 4 top 10 QB prospects.

3. Ride Howell, go one game below .500, and have this same discussion next year.

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Easier to say what I dont want.

I want out of the mediocrity death roll.

Guys like Allen/Terry make it impossible to lose 12 or more games, but no QB makes it impossible to go to the playoffs.

I dont need another Sweat or Jamin Davis.

I would not want to pay someone like Carr who sucks and that money can be spent on players like Curl, Payne, etc. there is no need to spend money on losers like Carr, Wentz. Have we not learned a lesson?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I would not want to pay someone like Carr who sucks and that money can be spent on players like Curl, Payne, etc. there is no need to spend money on losers like Carr, Wentz. Have we not learned a lesson?

DO NOT get Carr. He is a below avg QB that chokes in big games. He’s very similar to Dak and Cousins. Looks good one week and shit the next. Why pay someone like that??


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[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

DO NOT get Carr. He is a below avg QB that chokes in big games. He’s very similar to Dak and Cousins. Looks good one week and shit the next. Why pay someone like that??


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

We got plenty of time and a lot of the options available are still unknown.

id prefer

1. Adding a functional tier 2 vet QB, Carr being the bottom of that tier. I do not want to go the Wentz/Fitzpatrick route of adding a non functional vet. I know Carr isnt popular but hes functional. Something we havent had since Cousins.

^^ probably not likely as these guys rarely are made available during their functional years. I dont want a old vet like Matt Ryan, a former functional QB who is now no functional.

2. Trade up in the draft for one of the 4 top 10 QB prospects.

3. Ride Howell, go one game below .500, and have this same discussion next year.

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Easier to say what I dont want.

I want out of the mediocrity death roll.

Guys like Allen/Terry make it impossible to lose 12 or more games, but no QB makes it impossible to go to the playoffs.

I dont need another Sweat or Jamin Davis.

Option 1 makes my stomach turn and head spin. Lol

Option 2 is risky anytime but more-so when there isn’t a bonafide stud. Which is this year. Also what are we giving up to take that risk?

That imo leaves Option 3. Roll with Sam. I just disagree with him being our quarterback and seeing the same results or even worse (1 game under .500) that we did this year. The fact that you think he wouldn’t be a better option than Taylor, or even Wentz is questionable to say the least. We “should” have a better D next year if we address LB and CB. Young will be fully healthy. We certainly “should” still have our RB’s and WR’s intact. See to me the question isn’t Sam as much as it is who is calling the shots when it comes to personnel. Who is calling the plays? Who is the HC? But even if we ran it back with this same exact team and staff ( ) I see Sam as an upgrade. Imo if Sam came in for that first Giants game and played the last month our season would not be over.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Option 1 makes my stomach turn and head spin. Lol

Option 2 is risky anytime but more-so when there isn’t a bonafide stud. Which is this year. Also what are we giving up to take that risk?

That imo leaves Option 3. Roll with Sam. I just disagree with him being our quarterback and seeing the same results or even worse (1 game under .500) that we did this year. The fact that you think he wouldn’t be a better option than Taylor, or even Wentz is questionable to say the least. We “should” have a better D next year if we address LB and CB. Young will be fully healthy. We certainly “should” still have our RB’s and WR’s intact. See to me the question isn’t Sam as much as it is who is calling the shots when it comes to personnel. Who is calling the plays? Who is the HC? But even if we ran it back with this same exact team and staff ( ) I see Sam as an upgrade. Imo if Sam came in for that first Giants game and played the last month our season would not be over.

Option 1 is the only path to the playoffs next year

Option 2 is the only path to potential long term playoff contender/SB contender

Option 3 is digestible but most likely its just a car ride in a circle and we end back here in mediocrity purgatory at this same time next year wondering what to do with our 16th overall pick

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It is what it is.

We have no control or say so.

I will cheer for whoever is under center.

With this team .. its doesnt matter.

until we land a stud QB1 ... its all the same shit, different year.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Option 1 is the only path to the playoffs next year

Option 2 is the only path to potential long term playoff contender/SB contender

Option 3 is digestible but most likely its just a car ride in a circle and we end back here in mediocrity purgatory at this same time next year wondering what to do with our 16th overall pick

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It is what it is.

We have no control or say so.

I will cheer for whoever is under center.

With this team .. its doesnt matter.

until we land a stud QB1 ... its all the same shit, different year.

We were 1 win away from the playoffs this year with Heinicke and Wentz.

Howell will be better than both of them next year. We can absolutely make the playoffs with Howell as our QB.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Option 1 is the only path to the playoffs next year

Option 2 is the only path to potential long term playoff contender/SB contender

Option 3 is digestible but most likely its just a car ride in a circle and we end back here in mediocrity purgatory at this same time next year wondering what to do with our 16th overall pick

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It is what it is.

We have no control or say so.

I will cheer for whoever is under center.

With this team .. its doesnt matter.

until we land a stud QB1 ... its all the same shit, different year.

We we’re pretty damn close to the playoffs this year SS. Slightly better quarterback play would’ve got us there. I don’t think it is as doom and gloom as usual when the season is over but who knows? Competent staff and a new owner would br a great start. Howell may surprise us but we need the right people around him. See the 49’ers.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by punch it in

We we’re pretty damn close to the playoffs this year SS. Slightly better quarterback play would’ve got us there. I don’t think it is as doom and gloom as usual when the season is over but who knows? Competent staff and a new owner would br a great start. Howell may surprise us but we need the right people around him. See the 49’ers.

Better decision making in the titans and vikings games also get us there...

see the ridiculous games vs. the giants, as well.