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Old 01-11-2023, 12:22 PM   #1
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Ron needs to absolutely go after a guy like Slowik. It's easy to say someone like that wouldn't want to come here in a lame duck year for RR etc., but if you are confident in what you can do, you could ultimately thrive here as an OC with these weapons on offense and this defense. Really just need to improve that o-line and build an offensive scheme around what Howell does best. It's actually a great opportunity in my opinion.

And again, I am laughing out loud at everyone who is balking at the idea of having a physical running team. At no time did RR or Mayhew say that they didn't want a balanced attack. Everyone just inferred that. Who doesn't want a physical power running game, and to keep the opponent's offense off the field? Contrary to what a lot are surmising, that does not equate to not having a capable and potent vertical attack.

You can have both.
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Old 01-11-2023, 01:23 PM   #2
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Ron needs to absolutely go after a guy like Slowik. It's easy to say someone like that wouldn't want to come here in a lame duck year for RR etc., but if you are confident in what you can do, you could ultimately thrive here as an OC with these weapons on offense and this defense. Really just need to improve that o-line and build an offensive scheme around what Howell does best. It's actually a great opportunity in my opinion.

And again, I am laughing out loud at everyone who is balking at the idea of having a physical running team. At no time did RR or Mayhew say that they didn't want a balanced attack. Everyone just inferred that. Who doesn't want a physical power running game, and to keep the opponent's offense off the field? Contrary to what a lot are surmising, that does not equate to not having a capable and potent vertical attack.

You can have both.

you could have stopped there chief ! lol
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Old 01-11-2023, 01:47 PM   #3
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you could have stopped there chief ! lol
Ha! Ok. You got me there.
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Old 01-12-2023, 01:50 AM   #4
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Ron needs to absolutely go after a guy like Slowik. It's easy to say someone like that wouldn't want to come here in a lame duck year for RR etc., but if you are confident in what you can do, you could ultimately thrive here as an OC with these weapons on offense and this defense. Really just need to improve that o-line and build an offensive scheme around what Howell does best. It's actually a great opportunity in my opinion.



And again, I am laughing out loud at everyone who is balking at the idea of having a physical running team. At no time did RR or Mayhew say that they didn't want a balanced attack. Everyone just inferred that. Who doesn't want a physical power running game, and to keep the opponent's offense off the field? Contrary to what a lot are surmising, that does not equate to not having a capable and potent vertical attack.



You can have both.
Reading your post one thing occured to me: this OC position might be really attractive. On top of all the offensive weapon and a young QB to develop, the fact it's almost guaranteed Ron is gone after next season with the new owner, of you're confident in what you can accomplish in a year, you can hope to be in the discussion to get promoted to HC.
I mean yeah the new owner will want to name the HC, but if he has a OC that just had one of the most explosive offense in the league, he could look at it and go "I'll be the good guy that promote a young promising coach to HC, and focus on other things".
All speculation but yeah, that OC position may actually be more attractive than this team's HC job.

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Old 01-12-2023, 03:43 AM   #5
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Reading your post one thing occured to me: this OC position might be really attractive. On top of all the offensive weapon and a young QB to develop, the fact it's almost guaranteed Ron is gone after next season with the new owner, of you're confident in what you can accomplish in a year, you can hope to be in the discussion to get promoted to HC.
I mean yeah the new owner will want to name the HC, but if he has a OC that just had one of the most explosive offense in the league, he could look at it and go "I'll be the good guy that promote a young promising coach to HC, and focus on other things".
All speculation but yeah, that OC position may actually be more attractive than this team's HC job.

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I was thinking exactly the same. RR pretty much left the O up to Turner rather than overly meddle. That suggests that whoever comes in likely has almost free reign. A good young OC could turn this into a potent O with one good off-season, and at worst bolster his CV for a HC job wherever. That's why I wouldn't go for a retread; get the guy who's hungry.
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I was thinking exactly the same. RR pretty much left the O up to Turner rather than overly meddle. That suggests that whoever comes in likely has almost free reign. A good young OC could turn this into a potent O with one good off-season, and at worst bolster his CV for a HC job wherever. That's why I wouldn't go for a retread; get the guy who's hungry.
I doubt the OC will have free reign. Ron has said that he wants a run first 1985 style offense so a modern OC is already constrained in what he can do and how potent the O can be. Ron likes his peeps and wont bring in someone he's unfamiliar with.
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I doubt the OC will have free reign. Ron has said that he wants a run first 1985 style offense so a modern OC is already constrained in what he can do and how potent the O can be. Ron likes his peeps and wont bring in someone he's unfamiliar with.
Shows you how out of date Ron is
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I doubt the OC will have free reign. Ron has said that he wants a run first 1985 style offense so a modern OC is already constrained in what he can do and how potent the O can be. Ron likes his peeps and wont bring in someone he's unfamiliar with.
Don't fall for what RR was saying during that presser about wanting to run the ball.

Last offseason tells us all we need to know about what he wanted from the offense this year. They drafted a WR and a receiving TE. They signed Wentz for his arm and ability to stretch the field. They opened up the season trying to throw it 35-40 times a game until Wentz showed he couldn't get it done. They only reverted to pounding the ball once the Wentz experiment failed.

Instead of admitting they failed yet again at finding a QB and that's why the offense was run heavy, Ron tried to make it sound like that was the plan all along. It wasn't.
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Don't fall for what RR was saying during that presser about wanting to run the ball.

Last offseason tells us all we need to know about what he wanted from the offense this year. They drafted a WR and a receiving TE. They signed Wentz for his arm and ability to stretch the field. They opened up the season trying to throw it 35-40 times a game until Wentz showed he couldn't get it done. They only reverted to pounding the ball once the Wentz experiment failed.

Instead of admitting they failed yet again at finding a QB and that's why the offense was run heavy, Ron tried to make it sound like that was the plan all along. It wasn't.

Exactly.
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