Commanders 2023 Off-Season Thread

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He won them with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahommes. The best offensive coach and quarterback in the game. There is definitely a thought of how much does EB have to do with this?
It is a reasonable question.

EB needs to prove that he can run a strong offense without Reid and Mahommes. No better place than here to prove you can turn an offense around.

Reid said himself the guy needs to go run his own show.

It is not a reasonable question when you have teams hiring DCs, ST coordinators, etc., etc. as HC.

Again, I keep bringing up McDaniels as an example of a HC who worked under a great coach/QB option who got many time overs opportunities to become a HC (and he's already failed at it once). Also, there is an entire history of Belichick tree coaches who have failed as HCs.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It is not a reasonable question when you have teams hiring DCs, ST coordinators, etc., etc. as HC.

Again, I keep bringing up McDaniels as an example of a HC who worked under a great coach/QB option who got many time overs opportunities to become a HC (and he's already failed at it once). Also, there is an entire history of Belichick tree coaches who have failed as HCs.

what would be a reasonable question then?

this is confusing

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

what would be a reasonable question then?

this is confusing

I probably didn't phrase that well. I feel like there are questions about EB that are not being asked when other coordinators/assistants that have been hired as head coaches.

And I feel like he has been involved in a successful organization for far too long for people to still have questions.

Look at every coach in the Belichick tree that has been hired solely for the reputation of being involved in a successful franchise. Yes, a lot of them have failed, but I feel like no one ever said "well he was successful because he worked under a great coach with a great QB." And this includes his DCs, given that BB is seen as a defensive-minded HC.

Unless EB goes and punches everyone in the face, and pisses and sh*ts himself during interviews, I don't get how he cannot get a job with the success he's had as an OC. And why there are a million questions/excuses as to why he's not a HC.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It is not a reasonable question when you have teams hiring DCs, ST coordinators, etc., etc. as HC.

Again, I keep bringing up McDaniels as an example of a HC who worked under a great coach/QB option who got many time overs opportunities to become a HC (and he's already failed at it once). Also, there is an entire history of Belichick tree coaches who have failed as HCs.

McDaniels is a perfect example of what im saying. Lol. Clearly the Pats success had nothing to do with him.
Is it fair to EB that he didn’t get a shot and McDaniels did? Nope. But it is reasonable to ask how much success is attributed to EB when it comes to the Chiefs. Also Reid is an offensive guy. BB is defense. So with EB it is well he has a great quarterback and HC. With McDaniels it was just the quarterback.

For the record i think EB deserves a shot. Im just throwing out reasons why teams may wonder and they might be thinking who couldn’t be a successful OC with Mahommes and Reid…

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

McDaniels is a perfect example of what im saying. Lol. Clearly the Pats success had nothing to do with him.
Is it fair to EB that he didn’t get a shot and McDaniels did? Nope. But it is reasonable to ask how much success is attributed to EB when it comes to the Chiefs. Also Reid is an offensive guy. BB is defense. So with EB it is well he has a great quarterback and HC. With McDaniels it was just the quarterback.

For the record i think EB deserves a shot. Im just throwing out reasons why teams may wonder and they might be thinking who couldn’t be a successful OC with Mahommes and Reid…

Don't forget, McDaniels got a shot at being a HC, failed miserably, and then he got two additional opportunities (he turned down the Colts at the last minute before Reich became HC).

I'll be happy with EB as our OC, other teams' losses can be our gain.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Don't forget, McDaniels got a shot at being a HC, failed miserably, and then he got two additional opportunities (he turned down the Colts at the last minute before Reich became HC).

I'll be happy with EB as our OC, other teams' losses can be our gain.

McDaniels should never have gotten another shot. And me too!