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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Read the research paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...66560321000438

It is far more telling than a random guys blog with a political agenda. This research has documented previous self reporting dating back several decades that shows conservatives are happier than liberals. It does only tell a portion of the story. You are going to be depressed if you view the social and economic inequality in the country as a problem. If you don't view it as a problem it isn't going to bother you.

Younger generations have learned to recognize and talk about things that are bothering them while older generations will internalize. However where do we see rising suicide rates? Middle aged white men that are far more likely to internalize than discuss feelings and seek help. They are far more likely to admit to depression, seek help but it doesn't mean they aren't.

Yeah, I’ve read it and Haidt, who isn’t a conservative but a 2-3 time best seller whose coddling of the young mind book should be required reading in high school. He’s well regarded. You should read his substack as he takes the research and is asking why. Goldberg from the times has written about it and came out with tech and social media, Matt Yglesias wrote about it with the research and said didn’t excuse it. Haidt has written about this long before this study, parenting and higher education is problematic.

Why the 2011-2012 upward spike for every category after straight lines for 10 years?…why are 56% lib women claiming a mental illness? Why are kids suffering from in a mental health crisis across the country?

One thing with Liberals that Haidt has pointed out is what he calls “Catastrophizing” of their issues. Example: the world is going to end in 9 years due climate change, not recognizing transgender people will lead too genocide, calling the police on people of color will likely lead to their death, Covid will never end and will eventually kill everyone, etc. His point is, if keep saying this hyperbolic statements (which most adults understand is political) in front of kids over and over, they will believe it. So what do you think will happen?

He’s also mentioned there is a problem within rich, white progressive kids…which upper middle class to wealthy coastal elites have become that base….they have the inconvenient identity where they need to adapt a “social signal” to identify with a marginalized group, people who have mental illness. Over prescribed, over diagnosed ailments.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Richard Dawkins declares there are only two sexes as matter of science: 'That's all there is to it'.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/richar...ence-thats-all

He added that LGBTQ activists looking to discredit the reality of two biological sexes are pushing "utter nonsense."

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Richard Dawkins declares there are only two sexes as matter of science: 'That's all there is to it'.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/richar...ence-thats-all

He added that LGBTQ activists looking to discredit the reality of two biological sexes are pushing "utter nonsense."

I like Richard Dawkins a lot. I think he is right on a lot of levels but we need to not discredit transgenderism. Parrot fish live in harems with one male and up to 14 females. If the male dies the alpha female turns in to the male, the lack of testosterone in the water elicits this change. Groupers shift sex based on age. Northern Cardinals, whiptail lizards. There are plenty of examples of transgenderism in vertebrates. Those genes are in us from an evolutionary standpoint even if they are dormant. There is not enough research applied to humans but my thoughts are that the hermaphroditism we see in wild species caused by endocrine disruptors from our medicines and plastics in the water way can easily translate to humans as well. It makes sense to me the rise of smaller sperm counts and testicles in human males since the 70s is tied to the rise of single use plastics.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I like Richard Dawkins a lot. I think he is right on a lot of levels but we need to not discredit transgenderism. Parrot fish live in harems with one male and up to 14 females. If the male dies the alpha female turns in to the male, the lack of testosterone in the water elicits this change. Groupers shift sex based on age. Northern Cardinals, whiptail lizards. There are plenty of examples of transgenderism in vertebrates. Those genes are in us from an evolutionary standpoint even if they are dormant. There is not enough research applied to humans but my thoughts are that the hermaphroditism we see in wild species caused by endocrine disruptors from our medicines and plastics in the water way can easily translate to humans as well. It makes sense to me the rise of smaller sperm counts and testicles in human males since the 70s is tied to the rise of single use plastics.

I normally try to stay away from the transgenderism discussions as it's no where near the top of the list of what I find important when discussing politics. I am of the belief that there are only men and women. Typically this thought gets assigned as a Christian/conservative thought (and often in a negative light). Just found this article interesting because obviously Dawkins is neither of those things. People can share this thought across the spectrum, but people in some groups just might be hesitant to state that opinion out loud as much.

And, our balls are smaller? WTF? Didn't know that stat.

The bold part will be my final take on the issue for today.

Happy hump day everyone.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I normally try to stay away from the transgenderism discussions as it's no where near the top of the list of what I find important when discussing politics. I am of the belief that there are only men and women. Typically this thought gets assigned as a Christian/conservative thought (and often in a negative light). Just found this article interesting because obviously Dawkins is neither of those things. People can share this thought across the spectrum, but people in some groups just might be hesitant to state that opinion out loud as much.

And, our balls are smaller? WTF? Didn't know that stat.

The bold part will be my final take on the issue for today.

Happy hump day everyone.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3862078/

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I normally try to stay away from the transgenderism discussions as it's no where near the top of the list of what I find important when discussing politics. I am of the belief that there are only men and women. Typically this thought gets assigned as a Christian/conservative thought (and often in a negative light). Just found this article interesting because obviously Dawkins is neither of those things. People can share this thought across the spectrum, but people in some groups just might be hesitant to state that opinion out loud as much.

And, our balls are smaller? WTF? Didn't know that stat.

The bold part will be my final take on the issue for today.

Happy hump day everyone.

Every single long term study of teens with gender dysphoria have rates of 70- 91% grow out of it by adulthood. people who support children under 18 having sex changes, chemical castration, etc are just crazy imo

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Every single long term study of teens with gender dysphoria have rates of 70- 91% grow out of it by adulthood. people who support children under 18 having sex changes, chemical castration, etc are just crazy imo

You are so obsessed with transgenders that im beginning to wonder if you have a battle going on in your own head about it? Either that or you were bullied by one. Something though.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You are so obsessed with transgenders that im beginning to wonder if you have a battle going on in your own head about it? Either that or you were bullied by one. Something though.

He's a keyboard bully.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Every single long term study of teens with gender dysphoria have rates of 70- 91% grow out of it by adulthood. people who support children under 18 having sex changes, chemical castration, etc are just crazy imo

The white guy with the Coors hat and Bud Lite is the one with the problem here.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

The white guy with the Coors hat and Bud Lite is the one with the problem here.

Literally the one with the problem. The other person could care less what he does. The anger that festers in the hard right is so strange to me. Are they afraid of life/death? Are they just super unhappy with their own lives? Bored as fuck? Some total deep rooted panic inside their tiny brains that comes out in anger and violence because they cannot cope.
All they do is go from entity to entity and harass them until the puppet masters lead them to their next target audience based solely on greed and power. The puppet masters could really care less about the targets. They just help them complete their lies, by hiding behind christianity, conservatism, and patriotism to make it all morally acceptable on some level. Ironically they are the three things they embody least. Ultimately the puppet masters can control even more of our lives for their own selfish reasons, and the pawns/sheep/droids wonder why they are so up against it. They are literally fighting a battle against themselves. It is cosmic hilarity.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah, I’ve read it and Haidt, who isn’t a conservative but a 2-3 time best seller whose coddling of the young mind book should be required reading in high school. He’s well regarded. You should read his substack as he takes the research and is asking why. Goldberg from the times has written about it and came out with tech and social media, Matt Yglesias wrote about it with the research and said didn’t excuse it. Haidt has written about this long before this study, parenting and higher education is problematic.

Why the 2011-2012 upward spike for every category after straight lines for 10 years?…why are 56% lib women claiming a mental illness? Why are kids suffering from in a mental health crisis across the country?

One thing with Liberals that Haidt has pointed out is what he calls “Catastrophizing” of their issues. Example: the world is going to end in 9 years due climate change, not recognizing transgender people will lead too genocide, calling the police on people of color will likely lead to their death, Covid will never end and will eventually kill everyone, etc. His point is, if keep saying this hyperbolic statements (which most adults understand is political) in front of kids over and over, they will believe it. So what do you think will happen?

He’s also mentioned there is a problem within rich, white progressive kids…which upper middle class to wealthy coastal elites have become that base….they have the inconvenient identity where they need to adapt a “social signal” to identify with a marginalized group, people who have mental illness. Over prescribed, over diagnosed ailments.

There is truth to this. Climate change is such a significant issue we shouldn't have to be hyperbolic about it. Like I said this data is on par with what we have seen from previous research. In terms of the spike there are myriad reasons. I do think if you look at the age a lot has to do with a specific focus by that generation on mental well being compared to previous generations, but you can also through political ideology in there as well. On a anecdotal level my sister is a fundamental baptist and very conservative. She can't pay her bills her outlook is faith in god. He will provide a way. Me and my socialist atheist outlook? I stay up at night trying to solve the problem obviously causes stress.

Substack? I am assuming this is some reddit thing?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

There is truth to this. Climate change is such a significant issue we shouldn't have to be hyperbolic about it. Like I said this data is on par with what we have seen from previous research. In terms of the spike there are myriad reasons. I do think if you look at the age a lot has to do with a specific focus by that generation on mental well being compared to previous generations, but you can also through political ideology in there as well. On a anecdotal level my sister is a fundamental baptist and very conservative. She can't pay her bills her outlook is faith in god. He will provide a way. Me and my socialist atheist outlook? I stay up at night trying to solve the problem obviously causes stress.

Substack? I am assuming this is some reddit thing?

My god Baltimore. no, it’s absolutely nothing like Reddit. Reddit is possibly the worst website on the internet. I’m serious about that, it’s the shithole of shitholes. I’ve made sure Reddit is banned from all internet usage with the kids.

Substack is subscription based site for journalists and writers. it’s kinda the future on that front…so if your interested in following work…like Michael Shellenberger..Freddie deBoer..they write there and you can subscribe.

[Giantone]

..................but not tik tok.