The Sam Howell Thread

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Originally Posted by MTK

I'm all for giving him a shot.

But it's worth noting the rest of the league passed him over multiple times as well.

I hope he proves all the doubters wrong.

He lost a lot of his surrounding talent his junior year at UNC, couple that with his height and throw in how weak everyone looked at the quarterback class as a whole. You get a once sure fire top 10 pick falling into the fifth round. He may not pan out, but I put absolutely zero stock in the fact that he fell in the draft. It was 100 percent due to things out if his control. If he had come out the year before he would have been a first rounder. We were fortunate to get him in the fifth round.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He lost a lot of his surrounding talent his junior year at UNC, couple that with his height and throw in how weak everyone looked at the quarterback class as a whole. You get a once sure fire top 10 pick falling into the fifth round. He may not pan out, but I put absolutely zero stock in the fact that he fell in the draft. It was 100 percent due to things out if his control. If he had come out the year before he would have been a first rounder. We were fortunate to get him in the fifth round.

You don't think the league knew about the talent he lost? And considering the weak QB class he came out in he should have easily stood out. Let's not get into the height excuse when Bryce Young just went #1 at 5'10 and Kyler Murray in 2019 at the same height.

Sorry man, not buying any of this. If he was a legit first round talent he would have gone in the first round. Again, I'll be rooting for him and I really hope he proves the doubters wrong, maybe we did find a gem, but history is not on our side when it comes to 5th rounders becoming stud QBs.

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Originally Posted by MTK

You don't think the league knew about the talent he lost? And considering the weak QB class he came out in he should have easily stood out. Let's not get into the height excuse when Bryce Young just went #1 at 5'10 and Kyler Murray in 2019 at the same height.

Sorry man, not buying any of this. If he was a legit first round talent he would have gone in the first round. Again, I'll be rooting for him and I really hope he proves the doubters wrong, maybe we did find a gem, but history is not on our side when it comes to 5th rounders becoming stud QBs.

But he was a legit first round talent the year before. His play didn’t fall off that much. So .

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Originally Posted by punch it in

But he was a legit first round talent the year before. His play didn’t fall off that much. So .

Right, his play didn't fall off much and he came out in a weak class and still lasted until the 5th. I think fans need to let go of the draft hype and grades because it meant nothing in his case.

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Originally Posted by MTK

Right, his play didn't fall off much and he came out in a weak class and still lasted until the 5th. I think fans need to let go of the draft hype and grades because it meant nothing in his case.

Well in fairness the hype for him was before his third year. But even before his draft he was a second round projection.

Hey if nothing else the guy will play with a chip on his shoulder. Id still take him over Pickett too.