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Old 08-21-2023, 01:55 PM   #1
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What I don't get is why more people opposed (this includes the biased press) to Trump aren't highlighting that he attempted a coup. It's as if they are afraid to use that word as being too hyperbolic. But, by definition, it was in fact a coup attempt or more specifically a self-coup or auto-coup.
Not sure where you're looking, but from my liberal perspective it seems like every prominent liberal has highlighted the fact he attempted a half-assed coup. They just get tuned out by conservatives for being liberal though.

And conservative politicians sure as fuck ain't gonna mention it until they are basically assured of being removed from office, because they are signing a career death sentence if they speak about it (hint: it's because their voter base is Trump's voter base).

They'll speak about it in private but as soon they go public with it they're out. MAGA has a mafia style setup, you're either 100% in or you're out. Soon as you start questioning why (like you're Mike in The Wire) you're out.

There you have it.
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Old 08-21-2023, 07:07 PM   #2
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.........this.
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Old 08-21-2023, 07:21 PM   #3
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Not sure where you're looking, but from my liberal perspective it seems like every prominent liberal has highlighted the fact he attempted a half-assed coup. They just get tuned out by conservatives for being liberal though.

And conservative politicians sure as fuck ain't gonna mention it until they are basically assured of being removed from office, because they are signing a career death sentence if they speak about it (hint: it's because their voter base is Trump's voter base).

They'll speak about it in private but as soon they go public with it they're out. MAGA has a mafia style setup, you're either 100% in or you're out. Soon as you start questioning why (like you're Mike in The Wire) you're out.

There you have it.
I'm not talking about opinion pieces I'm talking about regular news reporting I''m refering to ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC etc. - nightly news, morning shows, ect). They will consistently refer to the election steal as the big lie, which it is, but never say the Trump coup or the failed coup attempt.
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Old 08-22-2023, 10:34 AM   #4
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I'm not talking about opinion pieces I'm talking about regular news reporting I''m refering to ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC etc. - nightly news, morning shows, ect). They will consistently refer to the election steal as the big lie, which it is, but never say the Trump coup or the failed coup attempt.
Semantics. Doesn't matter what they call it, both sides are pretty entrenched right now. I agree, would rather they call it a coup vs "The Big Lie."
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Old 08-23-2023, 08:11 AM   #5
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...3248c4db&ei=98

Trump is ineligible for office and more people are realizing it: Yale professor

If Republicans are serious about capturing the White House next year, their best bet would be to ditch Donald Trump.

That’s according to the findings of a newly published University of Pennsylvania Law School study authored by two staunch conservatives that says Trump would be ineligible to serve because of his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, Yale management professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld writes for Just Security.

Sonnenfeld asserts that the study “shows with true authority that Trump has violated a fourth qualification, by providing aid and comfort to an insurrection and enemies of the U.S. Constitution.”

The study’s authors, William Baude and Michael Stokes Paulsen, are both Federalist Society members who support “originalist” constitutional interpretations.

“Using this method of interpretation and historical research, Baude and Paulsen conclude that Trump has unequivocally run afoul of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment – the insurrection clause — by breaching his sworn oath of office to obey the Constitution.”
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Old 08-23-2023, 10:23 AM   #6
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https://news.yahoo.com/two-constitut...155933105.html

Two Constitutional scholars say Trump disqualified in 2024 race

Former judge J. Michael Luttig and constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe tell CNN’s Kasie Hunt that Donald Trump is ineligible to be president under the 14th Amendment for his role in the January 6 attack on the US Capitol.
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https://news.yahoo.com/two-constitut...155933105.html

Two Constitutional scholars say Trump disqualified in 2024 race

Former judge J. Michael Luttig and constitutional scholar Laurence Tribe tell CNN’s Kasie Hunt that Donald Trump is ineligible to be president under the 14th Amendment for his role in the January 6 attack on the US Capitol.
It'd think this applies only if he is found guilty (yes I think he's guilty).
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