Cowboys/Redskins in the first round?

[BigSKINBauer]

Three or More Teams
*If two clubs remain tied after a third is eliminated during any step, the tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-team format.

Start by eliminating all but the highest ranked club in each division by using the divisional tiebreaker above. After the field has been narrowed to no more than one team from each division, the following tiebreakers are used:
1. Head-to-Head
2. Conference Record
3. Common Games (minimum of four)
4. Strength of Victory
5. Strength of Schedule
6. Combined Ranking Among Conference Teams (points scored and points allowed)
7. Combined Ranking Among All Teams (points scored and points allowed)
8. Net Points (conference games)
9. Net Points (all games)
10. Net Touchdowns (all games)
11. Coin toss

* Wild-Card tie breakers are also used to determine home-field advantage.
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I am almost positive that the first step there should have more explaination.

Head to head is used but only if one team has beaten all of the other teams or if one team has been beaten by all of the other teams

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Team 1-Has beaten team 2 and has a 6-6 conference record
Team 2-Has lost to team 1 and has a 8-4 confernce record
Team 3-Never played team 1 or 2 and has a 10-2 conference record

So if team 1 has played team 2 and won but team 1 has not played team 3 it would go to conference record and team 1 has the worst conference record and is eliminated even though it has beaten team 2

[wolfeskins]

i'm confused because it also says that a team can win it's division by head to head , even if it has a worse divisional record than another team within the same division.:frusty:

in other words it's saying that the skins could have a division record of 2-4 ,while dallas has a division record of 4-2. the skins would win the division because their 2 division victories were against dallas.

makes no sense.

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i'm confused because it also says that a team can win it's division by head to head , even if it has a worse divisional record than another team within the same division.:frusty:

in other words it's saying that the skins could have a division record of 2-4 ,while dallas has a division record of 4-2. the skins would win the division because their 2 division victories were against dallas.

makes no sense.

Yah that is true about the division
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But as i said if a team has beaten ALL ALL ALL of the others competing for the wildcard with the same overall record they get in for sure or if they have lost to ALL ALL ALL the others competing for the wildcard with the same overall ranking they don't get in.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps. ...........

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

sheesh i was beginning to doubt myself. I should learn not to do that. SO in conclusion Wolfe is right. Dallas did not "SWEEP" us and carolina so they go because of conference record ...............
.................... I THINK? no no no I am pretty sure...?

[44deisel44]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i'm confused because it also says that a team can win it's division by head to head , even if it has a worse divisional record than another team within the same division.:frusty:

in other words it's saying that the skins could have a division record of 2-4 ,while dallas has a division record of 4-2. the skins would win the division because their 2 division victories were against dallas.

makes no sense.

Both teams have SAME overall record. One team swept the other....What sense would it make to send the team that Lost to the other twice to the playoffs?

[wheeler]

Originally Posted by 44deisel44

Both teams have SAME overall record. One team swept the other....What sense would it make to send the team that Lost to the other twice to the playoffs?

no sense at all thats why it wont happen...we win we are in .dallas wins and we looooos(well i cant bring my self to say the word).because we are gonna pound the shit out of em, in philly.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by 44deisel44

Both teams have SAME overall record. One team swept the other....What sense would it make to send the team that Lost to the other twice to the playoffs?

it would make perfect sense to me. why declare a team the winner of a division if its division record is worse than the team it swept. thats why there are more than two teams in a division.


example:
skins 10-6, 4-2 in the division
dallas 10-6, 3-3 in the division
philly 10-6, 3-3 in the division
N.Y. 10-6, 2-4 in the division but swept skins
N.Y. would win the division. thats why it makes no sense to me.

[ladyfan06]

Hey, we are currently 9-2 in the NFC and IF we beat Philly we will be 5-1 in the NFC EAST (swept the Cowboys-2, swept the Eagles-2, split with the Giants-1/1) that is why if the ONLY thing we have to do is win...if it comes down to a tie with another team (record-wise), we are dominant in the division and WE WIN....

Como esta el YAAAAAAY!!! (thanks for that one-CrankYankers)

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

it would make perfect sense to me. why declare a team the winner of a division if its division record is worse than the team it swept. thats why there are more than two teams in a division.


example:
skins 10-6, 4-2 in the division
dallas 10-6, 3-3 in the division
philly 10-6, 3-3 in the division
N.Y. 10-6, 2-4 in the division but swept skins
N.Y. would win the division. thats why it makes no sense to me.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by ladyfan06

Hey, we are currently 9-2 in the NFC and IF we beat Philly we will be 5-1 in the NFC EAST (swept the Cowboys-2, swept the Eagles-2, split with the Giants-1/1) that is why if the ONLY thing we have to do is win...if it comes down to a tie with another team (record-wise), we are dominant in the division and WE WIN....

Como esta el YAAAAAAY!!! (thanks for that one-CrankYankers)

yea , i know. i'm just giving an example of how a team can win its division .

[44deisel44]

So if a team beats another team TWICE it shouldnt matter (even with same overall record) as long as the other has better DIVISIONAL rec? I am so glad you dont control the playoff tiebreakers......You beat a team TWICE i hope NFL considers you as better team ( as long as same overall record that is)