Washington vs Card Pre Game

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by oldfan

Rivera has been a head coach for 12 seasons. His teams have won more games than they lost 3 times, 1 season was even at 8 - 8, eight seasons had a record of 50/50 + or -. That includes his time in Carolina when he had arguably the best quarterback in the league. IMO, Rivera is not a winning coach and never will be. The sooner Washington gets rid of him, the better.

Name the coach who has had more winning seasons than losing seasons, with a QB who wasn't one of the top QBs in the league.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Name the coach who has had more winning seasons than losing seasons, with a QB who wasn't one of the top QBs in the league.

Joe gibbs.

https://www.profootballhof.com/players/joe-gibbs/

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Joe gibbs.

https://www.profootballhof.com/players/joe-gibbs/

Exactly. Short list...

[WCommandersfan99]

28-13 Commanders. Let's go!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Exactly. Short list...

But didn’t Rivera have an MVP quarterback in Carolina?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Exactly. Short list...

so, I didn't do an exhaustive list. You could say terry bradshaw wasn't exactly great as well. And the raven's had decent records with hot garbage at QB for a while too.

[skinsfaninok]

28-10 Commanders

[punch it in]

31-17 C-Men.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Yep, and those years Cam played at a Pro Bowl level, they did pretty well. When he didn't or when he was injured, not so much.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Yep, and those years Cam played at a Pro Bowl level, they did pretty well. When he didn't or when he was injured, not so much.

The lack of Quality QB is Rivera's fault as well. He is the defacto GM too, so who was brought in is all on him.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Yep, and those years Cam played at a Pro Bowl level, they did pretty well. When he didn't or when he was injured, not so much.

So basically Ron needs a pro bowl caliber quarterback to even have a winning record? Over a 12 year span he had one for three years. Those other 9 years he managed just to get to .500 once. There is no way you can cut that where he doesn’t stink.

There certainly have been plenty of coaches who had at least one winning season in 9 years without a pro bowl quarterback. Doesn’t need to be more winning seasons than losing without said quarterback, but just a single one. It isn’t that much to ask.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So basically Ron needs a pro bowl caliber quarterback to even have a winning record? Over a 12 year span he had one for three years. Those other 9 years he managed just to get to .500 once. There is no way you can cut that where he doesn’t stink.

There certainly have been plenty of coaches who had at least one winning season in 9 years without a pro bowl quarterback. Doesn’t need to be more winning seasons than losing without said quarterback, but just a single one. It isn’t that much to ask.

He was the "best of the worst" that would come here to work under DS and all of the bullshit coming in. Despite what Ron said about how he was brought in to change the culture and all that other shit, he has contributed greatly to the dysfunction and controversy. Some of it might be accidental but lots and probably most of it fell squarely on his shoulders from his own doing.

He had a stable owner in Jerry Richardson at Carolina up until his incident happened, and as others pointed out, in 13 years as a HC, he has had double digit wins three times. He is not all of a sudden going to change his stripes and turn into a world beater. I did not like when he was hired, but he has done the best he could under horrible circumstances and he at least deserves to finish this season and get fired at the end of the season with dignity, and not after they get eliminated from the playoffs. This is probably his last go round as HC. I think his ego / pride is too much to return to the sidelines as a DC...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

He was the "best of the worst" that would come here to work under DS and all of the bullshit coming in. Despite what Ron said about how he was brought in to change the culture and all that other shit, he has contributed greatly to the dysfunction and controversy. Some of it might be accidental but lots and probably most of it fell squarely on his shoulders from his own doing.

He had a stable owner in Jerry Richardson at Carolina up until his incident happened, and as others pointed out, in 13 years as a HC, he has had double digit wins three times. He is not all of a sudden going to change his stripes and turn into a world beater. I did not like when he was hired, but he has done the best he could under horrible circumstances and he at least deserves to finish this season and get fired at the end of the season with dignity, and not after they get eliminated from the playoffs. This is probably his last go round as HC. I think his ego / pride is too much to return to the sidelines as a DC...

I agree wholeheartedly with your first sentence. I do not think he has an ego or that he contributed to any dysfunction. I think the players like him and i think all in all he is a good dude. I just think he is an awful clock manager, an awful x’s and o’s guy and an awful preparer, and in game adjuster. Basically an awful all around coach. But as far as him as a person I have zero issues with. Id love Ron Rivera the man to be an excellent football coach. He just isn’t.

[EdmundDorf]

Placed Milne on IR, signed W. Bradley King to the 53 man roster to replace him, in the words of Ben Standig "This does not bode well for Chase Young's Week 1 status at a minimum/ (or there's another DL issue)"

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Placed Milne on IR, signed W. Bradley King to the 53 man roster to replace him, in the words of Ben Standig "This does not bode well for Chase Young's Week 1 status at a minimum/ (or there's another DL issue)"

James Smith Williams was added to injury list with oblique issue, nothing to do with CY.