Washington vs Card Pre Game

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by punch it in

How do you define fine? Is fine winning or not getting embarrassed by good teams? Is fine coming out in each half flat and than fighting to make things respectable? Also camp shmamp, every fan of every team thinks their team will be fine before the season starts. Im thinking 8 wins tops this year.

I guess you'll be surprised like most, this isn't the team of years past. They have to deal with EB and he won't let up, the OL is better than last year and younger, still need a better T than Jay Leno. Howell will have the benefit of a solid running game and wide receivers, the D will be much more improved especially on the Dline and CB,S positions. I expect playoffs and they will make it.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I guess you'll be surprised like most, this isn't the team of years past. They have to deal with EB and he won't let up, the OL is better than last year and younger, still need a better T than Jay Leno. Howell will have the benefit of a solid running game and wide receivers, the D will be much more improved especially on the Dline and CB,S positions. I expect playoffs and they will make it.

I think we are on the right track - hell Snyder is gone whatever track we are on it’s better! You know i love Sam. Think he will be here for years.
I have serious reservations about the oline. No way I expect the playoffs. Not this year. I completely, as always, appreciate your optimism. But like KI said, show me (not in camp).

Every year you scream playoffs in the pre season SF. One of these years you can finally say I told you so! It will be 2024. Lol.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I think we are on the right track - hell Snyder is gone whatever track we are on it’s better! You know i love Sam. Think he will be here for years.
I have serious reservations about the oline. No way I expect the playoffs. Not this year. I completely, as always, appreciate your optimism. But like KI said, show me (not in camp).

Every year you scream playoffs in the pre season SF. One of these years you can finally say I told you so! It will be 2024. Lol.

If Rivera had played Howell the last 3 games of the season instead of hoping for Wentz to magically play like his old, old self, the team would have made the playoffs.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I guess you'll be surprised like most, this isn't the team of years past. They have to deal with EB and he won't let up, the OL is better than last year and younger, still need a better T than Jay Leno. Howell will have the benefit of a solid running game and wide receivers, the D will be much more improved especially on the Dline and CB,S positions. I expect playoffs and they will make it.

Very good assessment of the team and the o-line. The o-line last year was atrocious, so was the coaching, and the QBs.

I think that having a healthy S. Charles, adding Nick Gates and Wiley, and having Cosmi full-time at guard is a major improvement over last year. Yes, they need to gel better, but I think people have forgotten how awful the line was last (remember Norwell and Trai Turner? )

I trust EB's coaching and his ability to adapt a million times better than Scott Turner. That is a big improvement and it will make a difference with the offense.

Finally, have people forgotten how f*cking awful Wentz and Heinicke were?

I'm all for being cautiously optimistic, and injuries can always derail a season. But I think people forget how bad the offense was last year (outside of WRs and RBs).

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Very good assessment of the team and the o-line. The o-line last year was atrocious, so was the coaching, and the QBs.

I think that having a healthy S. Charles, adding Nick Gates and Wiley, and having Cosmi full-time at guard is a major improvement over last year. Yes, they need to gel better, but I think people have forgotten how awful the line was last (remember Norwell and Trai Turner? )

I trust EB's coaching and his ability to adapt a million times better than Scott Turner. That is a big improvement and it will make a difference with the offense.

Finally, have people forgotten how f*cking awful Wentz and Heinicke were?

I'm all for being cautiously optimistic, and injuries can always derail a season. But I think people forget how bad the offense was last year (outside of WRs and RBs).

Our schedule has 7 wins written all over it. Hate to be that guy but….


All I really want to see this year is Sam ball out. There are going to be major changes after this season and then it is on. Just keepin it real. Lol.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Our schedule has 7 wins written all over it. Hate to be that guy but….


All I really want to see this year is Sam ball out. There are going to be major changes after this season and then it is on. Just keepin it real. Lol.

You are giving other teams more credit than ours.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

You are giving other teams more credit than ours.

Because until we actually do it when it counts they deserve it.
Doesn’t mean I’m not rooting for us of course.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Our schedule has 7 wins written all over it. Hate to be that guy but….


All I really want to see this year is Sam ball out. There are going to be major changes after this season and then it is on. Just keepin it real. Lol.

I can see why you would say that. It's not the easiest schedule.

- I think we can go .500 vs the AFC East.
- I think we take 4/7 from Chicago, Arizona, Denver, LA, SF, Seattle, & Atlanta.
- I think we go at least .500 vs the NFC East (we went 2-3-1 last year).

That's 9 wins... I'm thinking 7 is the floor and 11 is the ceiling.

Hopefully the ball bounces our way this year more than it doesn't.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I can see why you would say that. It's not the easiest schedule.

- I think we can go .500 vs the AFC East.
- I think we take 4/7 from Chicago, Arizona, Denver, LA, SF, Seattle, & Atlanta.
- I think we go at least .500 vs the NFC East (we went 2-3-1 last year).

That's 9 wins... I'm thinking 7 is the floor and 11 is the ceiling.

Hopefully the ball bounces our way this year more than it doesn't.

If Seattle was a home game Id like our chances better. SF is more than likely a loss but you never know. So I can see 4 wins in that group. I hate to say it but I think the nfc east is where we come up short.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I can see why you would say that. It's not the easiest schedule.



- I think we can go .500 vs the AFC East.

- I think we take 4/7 from Chicago, Arizona, Denver, LA, SF, Seattle, & Atlanta.

- I think we go at least .500 vs the NFC East (we went 2-3-1 last year).



That's 9 wins... I'm thinking 7 is the floor and 11 is the ceiling.



Hopefully the ball bounces our way this year more than it doesn't.

We're more or less on the same page.
Of course the season could derail for whatever reason (injuries, couple of bad bounces early etc...), but realisticly our floor should be 7 wins.
I don't know about 11 but I see a path to us getting to 10 wins.

It's been said before, but with our schedule, a significantly improved team could end up 8 and 9.
Our division could be really tough, and we're playing the toughest looking AFC div.

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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Our schedule has 7 wins written all over it. Hate to be that guy but….


All I really want to see this year is Sam ball out. There are going to be major changes after this season and then it is on. Just keepin it real. Lol.

So you are saying that our current team is worst than last year's team that won 8 games?

I have yet to hear a convincing argument from the doom and gloom crowd.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So you are saying that our current team is worst than last year's team that won 8 games?

I have yet to hear a convincing argument from the doom and gloom crowd.

That's kinda where I'm at.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So you are saying that our current team is worst than last year's team that won 8 games?

I have yet to hear a convincing argument from the doom and gloom crowd.

Um. No. Im saying our schedule is tougher. Our division is going to be tough as nails because the other three teams are all playoff teams going into this year. Sam is still basically a rookie, and it is a new offense. We did nothing to bolster our LB corp. Rivera is still the HC so I still expect slow starts and the inability to adjust. I think we will be a more competitive team based solely on Sam and EB. Don’t think we are an automatic win for anyone anymore. However that doesn’t automatically equate to 10 wins and a playoff birth. I think we are a year away. If you wanna wave your fan boy flag and call me doom and gloom have at it though.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Um. No. Im saying our schedule is tougher. Our division is going to be tough as nails because the other three teams are all playoff teams going into this year. Sam is still basically a rookie, and it is a new offense. We did nothing to bolster our LB corp. Rivera is still the HC so I still expect slow starts and the inability to adjust. I think we will be a more competitive team based solely on Sam and EB. Don’t think we are an automatic win for anyone anymore. However that doesn’t automatically equate to 10 wins and a playoff birth. I think we are a year away. If you wanna wave your fan boy flag and call me doom and gloom have at it though.

I don't think we're a 10-win team, but I think we have a better team than last year's and I think that gives us a chance to at least match our record from last season and potentially improve it.

Also, people should not dismiss the terrible effect that Snyder had on this team at all levels. He was f*cking awful and having him out of the picture should help everyone do their jobs better.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I don't think we're a 10-win team, but I think we have a better team than last year's and I think that gives us a chance to at least match our record from last season and potentially improve it.

Also, people should not dismiss the terrible effect that Snyder had on this team at all levels. He was f*cking awful and having him out of the picture should help everyone do their jobs better.

Howell is much better than Wentz and Heinecken combined, they won 8 games with shit QB's, OL and OC. If people can't see that, then I don't know what they aren't seeing. This year, way better QB, improved OL and TE's, RB's, OC, DL and CB's/S spots. The D will be nasty.