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Old 09-06-2023, 08:01 AM   #1
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Norwell and Trai Turner were worthless last year, Roullier and everyone who played center was hurt. I can't even remember who was at RT. Last year's line was trash.

Leno, a healthy Saddiq Charles, Gates, Cosmi as a full-time guard, and Wylie at RT are definitely an improvement over last year's line. Are they the strongest unit in the team, NO. But saying that the line has not improved is outlandish. I feel like a lot of people are bitching about the line because we didn't get an o-lineman in the second round.

And yes, the running game should be much improved, since Brian Robinson has had a year under his belt, and I don't know, not being f*cking shot should help him a lot.

I give you that QB is an unknown, but last year Heinecke and Wentz were f*cking trash.

I know we have a tough schedule last year, but hey, you never know what will happen. Last year's team had no business beating the Iggles, but it happened.

This team has holes in some areas and they are very strong in others, like any other team in the NFL. But I'm tired of people just whining about the team being worst and the o-line and all this ignorant stuff without some context.
Wasn't it you who thought we would be much better last year because Wentz was a massive upgrade at QB? How'd that work out?

Leno deteriorated badly last year and unless he is Lazarus chances are he will be worse this year. People think Wiley is an upgrade simply because he came from the Chiefs, truth is he is garbage. Our guards are failed tackles and our centre is coming off a bad injury who has looked really poor in limited action since.

Improved???
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Old 09-06-2023, 09:43 AM   #2
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Wasn't it you who thought we would be much better last year because Wentz was a massive upgrade at QB? How'd that work out?

Leno deteriorated badly last year and unless he is Lazarus chances are he will be worse this year. People think Wiley is an upgrade simply because he came from the Chiefs, truth is he is garbage. Our guards are failed tackles and our centre is coming off a bad injury who has looked really poor in limited action since.

Improved???
I guess you know better than some of the people who cover the team and can give an objective opinion. You should email John Keim and tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Old 09-06-2023, 02:08 PM   #3
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Wasn't it you who thought we would be much better last year because Wentz was a massive upgrade at QB? How'd that work out?

Leno deteriorated badly last year and unless he is Lazarus chances are he will be worse this year. People think Wiley is an upgrade simply because he came from the Chiefs, truth is he is garbage. Our guards are failed tackles and our centre is coming off a bad injury who has looked really poor in limited action since.

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Brandon Scherff is a failed tackle too I guess.

Many college Tackles transition to Guard at the NFL level, and some of them do quite well.

I've heard nothing but good things about Gates, the rookie Stromberg, and Charles.

Let's see what happens on Sunday. I think the unit will surprise some.
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Brandon Scherff is a failed tackle too I guess.

Many college Tackles transition to Guard at the NFL level, and some of them do quite well.

I've heard nothing but good things about Gates, the rookie Stromberg, and Charles.

Let's see what happens on Sunday. I think the unit will surprise some.
I somehow posted the same thing twice. Hearing my opinion once is bad enough. Sorry.
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Brandon Scherff is a failed tackle too I guess.

Many college Tackles transition to Guard at the NFL level, and some of them do quite well.

I've heard nothing but good things about Gates, the rookie Stromberg, and Charles.

Let's see what happens on Sunday. I think the unit will surprise some.
Brandon Scherff was drafted to play guard. Some "experts" may have written otherwise but he came here to play guard.

This idea that Out of Date Ron has that NFL players should be able to play multiple positions is long gone in the NFL. Players are now drafted to play one position which is hard enough to learn in itself in today's cerebral NFL. By moving rookies around in practice Ron does more to confuse them and retard their development than anything else.
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Brandon Scherff was drafted to play guard. Some "experts" may have written otherwise but he came here to play guard.

This idea that Out of Date Ron has that NFL players should be able to play multiple positions is long gone in the NFL. Players are now drafted to play one position which is hard enough to learn in itself in today's cerebral NFL. By moving rookies around in practice Ron does more to confuse them and retard their development than anything else.
Well they did try him at right tackle early on, but he struggled and Morgan Moses was coming into his own at that time so they quickly moved BS inside. If we didn’t have Moses who knows, maybe BS would have been a so so RT instead of a pro bowl guard.

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Well they did try him at right tackle early on, but he struggled and Morgan Moses was coming into his own at that time so they quickly moved BS inside. If we didn’t have Moses who knows, maybe BS would have been a so so RT instead of a pro bowl guard.

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Man I wish we would kept Moses

King of the holding penalties at the wrong times. He stalled so many crucial drives with holds. But other than that he was good.
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Brandon Scherff was drafted to play guard. Some "experts" may have written otherwise but he came here to play guard.

This idea that Out of Date Ron has that NFL players should be able to play multiple positions is long gone in the NFL. Players are now drafted to play one position which is hard enough to learn in itself in today's cerebral NFL. By moving rookies around in practice Ron does more to confuse them and retard their development than anything else.
BS started his career as a right tackle, then got moved to guard because it better suited his skill set. Same thing is occurring with Sam Cosmi. If he turns out to be as big a failure as BS, I think we'll all take that.

Since it's not a matter of if, but when someone will get injured in the NFL (or football at any level), I'm not sure I completely understand why position flexibility is a bad thing.
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BS started his career as a right tackle, then got moved to guard because it better suited his skill set. Same thing is occurring with Sam Cosmi. If he turns out to be as big a failure as BS, I think we'll all take that.

Since it's not a matter of if, but when someone will get injured in the NFL (or football at any level), I'm not sure I completely understand why position flexibility is a bad thing.

Yes. He didn’t get moved to G because he wasn’t a good OT. He got moved specifically because he handled the bull rush well. I don’t think BS wouldn’t have had success as a OT but that his skill set was so perfectly suited to be an all pro G. So he wasn’t a failed tackle. That being said i agree with you , a failed T can be an awesome G.
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BS started his career as a right tackle, then got moved to guard because it better suited his skill set. Same thing is occurring with Sam Cosmi. If he turns out to be as big a failure as BS, I think we'll all take that.

Since it's not a matter of if, but when someone will get injured in the NFL (or football at any level), I'm not sure I completely understand why position flexibility is a bad thing.
Well, I didn't remember that. Sorry. Must be because I'm old. They say the memory is the second thing to go.
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Well, I didn't remember that. Sorry. Must be because I'm old. They say the memory is the second thing to go.
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