Washington vs Card Pre Game

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So basically Ron needs a pro bowl caliber quarterback to even have a winning record? Over a 12 year span he had one for three years. Those other 9 years he managed just to get to .500 once. There is no way you can cut that where he doesn’t stink.

There certainly have been plenty of coaches who had at least one winning season in 9 years without a pro bowl quarterback. Doesn’t need to be more winning seasons than losing without said quarterback, but just a single one. It isn’t that much to ask.

He was the "best of the worst" that would come here to work under DS and all of the bullshit coming in. Despite what Ron said about how he was brought in to change the culture and all that other shit, he has contributed greatly to the dysfunction and controversy. Some of it might be accidental but lots and probably most of it fell squarely on his shoulders from his own doing.

He had a stable owner in Jerry Richardson at Carolina up until his incident happened, and as others pointed out, in 13 years as a HC, he has had double digit wins three times. He is not all of a sudden going to change his stripes and turn into a world beater. I did not like when he was hired, but he has done the best he could under horrible circumstances and he at least deserves to finish this season and get fired at the end of the season with dignity, and not after they get eliminated from the playoffs. This is probably his last go round as HC. I think his ego / pride is too much to return to the sidelines as a DC...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

He was the "best of the worst" that would come here to work under DS and all of the bullshit coming in. Despite what Ron said about how he was brought in to change the culture and all that other shit, he has contributed greatly to the dysfunction and controversy. Some of it might be accidental but lots and probably most of it fell squarely on his shoulders from his own doing.

He had a stable owner in Jerry Richardson at Carolina up until his incident happened, and as others pointed out, in 13 years as a HC, he has had double digit wins three times. He is not all of a sudden going to change his stripes and turn into a world beater. I did not like when he was hired, but he has done the best he could under horrible circumstances and he at least deserves to finish this season and get fired at the end of the season with dignity, and not after they get eliminated from the playoffs. This is probably his last go round as HC. I think his ego / pride is too much to return to the sidelines as a DC...

I agree wholeheartedly with your first sentence. I do not think he has an ego or that he contributed to any dysfunction. I think the players like him and i think all in all he is a good dude. I just think he is an awful clock manager, an awful x’s and o’s guy and an awful preparer, and in game adjuster. Basically an awful all around coach. But as far as him as a person I have zero issues with. Id love Ron Rivera the man to be an excellent football coach. He just isn’t.