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Old 10-02-2023, 12:26 AM   #1
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Well I won't go as far as saying "I'm happy as hell", but I'm definitely not all that disappointed. Not happy they lost, but the effort was there all game. Nice start to the game, nice fourth quarter drive for the TD to tie it. The 3rd quarter was the difference probably.



I thought the defense played fine, Forbes got beat a couple times, and Hurts escaped for that long run, but other than that it's hard to complain about much on that side of the ball.



Nice bounce-back game by EB and Howell. I was impressed. I thought the O-line was pretty decent most of the time too. Running game was meh, but Robinson was mostly effective.



I thought Terry was out of bounds - no way they are overturning that one. Both teams benefitted from calls in different parts of the game too, so I think it was pretty neutral as far as the refs/penatlies went.



I would have been fine if they went for 2, but I'm not mad they didn't.



What the hell happened to Tress Way this year? He's definitely not the same punter we have been spoiled with the last several years.



Overall, to go on the road in that environment, take them to the wire, and lose only by a 54 yard FG in OT... tough to get too upset about that.



2-2 is fine. I like our chances at home against this team in a few weeks.
Except the 2 pts conv (I thought going for 1 was the right choice), l overall agree with your post.

A loss is loss. I'll take an overtime 3 pts loss to the undefeated defending NFC champs against a 37-3 beat down though.

And the refs didn't fuck us. They fucked the entire game by being ticky tacky with both teams. Early on our offense stayed on the field thanks to shitty calls. The refs just had an horrible overcalling game.



Players that are making me eat crow:

Saahdiq Charles
Jamin Davis

Players that keep disappointing:
Wylie
Cody Barton




Forbes had a tough game but a rookie against AJ Brown is gonna have a tough game.


Overall, do you guys feel that bad being 2 and 2 ?

Don't you guys feel better about our team after this game than last week ?

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Old 10-02-2023, 08:43 AM   #2
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Overall, do you guys feel that bad being 2 and 2?

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Before the season started we talked a lot about the schedule and I thought there was a consensus that if we could be 2-2 at this point we would be happy. We lost our last two games to teams that are both surely among the Top 5 teams in the NFL. That's O.K. for now.

Personally, I feel fine about being 2-2 at this point with a couple of beatable opponents coming up. I wanted the win over Philly as much as anyone else but we battled them toe-to-toe to the very end after suffering a debacle against the Bills the previous week. That is very positive in my mind.

Now we need to take care of business on Thursday night.
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Before the season started we talked a lot about the schedule and I thought there was a consensus that if we could be 2-2 at this point we would be happy. We lost our last two games to teams that are both surely among the Top 5 teams in the NFL. That's O.K. for now.



Personally, I feel fine about being 2-2 at this point with a couple of beatable opponents coming up. I wanted the win over Philly as much as anyone else but we battled them toe-to-toe to the very end after suffering a debacle against the Bills the previous week. That is very positive in my mind.



Now we need to take care of business on Thursday night.
Yeah that's were I'm at. After 4 games we are where we thought we would be. Beat 2 bad teams, lost to 2 good teams. Loss to the Bills was horrible but it only counts as one L, loss the Eagles was way better than most of us expected, but it still counts as one L.

Our half rookie QB is improving, still holds he ball too long at times but came back for a Nate Peterman like game and turned things around. We can argue on a couple of players but overall we are strong where we thought we'd be strong and weak were we thought we'd be weak.

To finish on a little talked about positive note, Chase Young had a good game and showed flashes of his rookie season against a top of the League LT who he put on his ass a couple of times.

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Old 10-02-2023, 09:55 AM   #4
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Except the 2 pts conv (I thought going for 1 was the right choice), l overall agree with your post.


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Old 10-02-2023, 10:04 AM   #5
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Right now? Very hard to find at 11pm in Japan... You know I'll do anything for good cheese though... (Except maybe going for 2 with no time left in the game when you have momentum, a young QB still making some costly mistakes and a Oline that you can't have faith in to just push it into the end zone for you.)


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Right now? Very hard to find at 11pm in Japan... You know I'll do anything for good cheese though... (Except maybe going for 2 with no time left in the game when you have momentum, a young QB still making some costly mistakes and a Oline that you can't have faith in to just push it into the end zone for you.)


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My bad. I guess the flip side of that is if you don't trust them to make one play how do you trust them to make a 75 yard drive? Regardless I am not upset by the decision. I would have liked the gamble but think going to OT is also fair. I've just been waiting to tell you to go eat some brillat-savarin when we disagree on something. So took my shot.
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My bad. I guess the flip side of that is if you don't trust them to make one play how do you trust them to make a 75 yard drive? Regardless I am not upset by the decision. I would have liked the gamble but think going to OT is also fair. I've just been waiting to tell you to go eat some brillat-savarin when we disagree on something. So took my shot.
Well, in that even a FG would have done the trick. And in that situation, yes I'd rather have have 4 chances to make 10 yards several times than gamble everything on one play after an exciting but rocky drive where it's not like they were imposing their will on every play.

And, Matty, I have a hard time getting how Ron's "offense was gassed" excuse is weak ? How would have losing the game on a play he knew his players didn't have a lot of chance to convert been smart ?

"-Coach that 2 pt conv looked awful, with 3 Dlinemen in the backfield in the blink of a eye, and Howell fumbling the ball back 20 yards, hindsight is 20/20 but could you walk us through the decision to go for 2 in that situation ?
-Well, I knew they were exhausted after that drive, but I'm a tough as nail coach and I never take into account anything my players say or feel, so I went for 2 cuz I wanted to!"

Evaluating if your players are in a position to make the play should indeed be part of the decision process IMO.

(Love the bolded part )
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Well, in that even a FG would have done the trick. And in that situation, yes I'd rather have have 4 chances to make 10 yards several times than gamble everything on one play after an exciting but rocky drive where it's not like they were imposing their will on every play.

And, Matty, I have a hard time getting how Ron's "offense was gassed" excuse is weak ? How would have losing the game on a play he knew his players didn't have a lot of chance to convert been smart ?

"-Coach that 2 pt conv looked awful, with 3 Dlinemen in the backfield in the blink of a eye, and Howell fumbling the ball back 20 yards, hindsight is 20/20 but could you walk us through the decision to go for 2 in that situation ?
-Well, I knew they were exhausted after that drive, but I'm a tough as nail coach and I never take into account anything my players say or feel, so I went for 2 cuz I wanted to!"

Evaluating if your players are in a position to make the play should indeed be part of the decision process IMO.

(Love the bolded part )

Offense is too gassed to run one play so we are going to play OT?
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Offense is too gassed to run one play so we are going to play OT?
Yes, give them a few minutes to regroup, rather than gamble everything on a play you almost know they're not going to make...
Players get out a couple of plays after a big play (WR, DL etc...), so yeah, a few minutes does make a difference (that's what she said).
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Offense is too gassed to run one play so we are going to play OT?
Maybe he meant they ate beans and were farting. What a weak ass excuse by Ron. I did agree with going into OT and had a chance if the refs opened their eyes, Terry was in. That was a huge call.
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