Do We Have the Best QBs?

[Hogskin]

I agree with you guys that Ramsey is one of the top backup QB's. But I would rate Brunell close to the same level. He has lost some of his once-amazing mobility and maybe a bit of his sharpness in passing. Otherwise, he would have to be rated well above Patrick at this point in his career. But to put them at the top of the NFL heap (on paper) seems quite a stretch to me. Manning (Peyton, of course LOL) and ANYONE is a better combo. Same for Culpepper or Vick and anyone. Cincinnati's combo could prove to be excellent, also, but I hope and expect the Redskins combo to outshine them this year.

[SmootSmack]

See I was thinking maybe Culpeper and Frerotte. But I wouldn't say Peyton and whoever their back up is or Vick and whoever their back up is, because the Colts and Falcons would have a significant drop-off if they went to their back up. The Redskins, I don't think, would.

A couple of other combos I was thinking of were McNair/Volek, Hasselbeck/Dilfer and maybe Garcia/Holcomb

[Hogskin]

I know what you are saying about the dropoff, Smack, but my point is that those guys are so good, I would rather take my chances with one of them and Norman Snead as backup than most pairs in the NFL (including our pair). I bet Gibbs would trade both of them straight up for any one of those guys in a heartbeat. But, I realize the point I am making is not really in the spirit of your thread about combos...

[SkinsRock]

Originally Posted by Hogskin

I know what you are saying about the dropoff, Smack, but my point is that those guys are so good, I would rather take my chances with one of them and Norman Snead as backup than most pairs in the NFL (including our pair). I bet Gibbs would trade both of them straight up for any one of those guys in a heartbeat. But, I realize the point I am making is not really in the spirit of your thread about combos...

I agree that guys like Vick and P. Manning are that good, but I wouldn't want to take the chance with a huge drop off. And I don't think Gibbs would either. Remember he was a minority owner with the Falcons last year, and I think that seeing what happened after Vick went down played a big part in getting a high quality QB in Brunell when we already had a good starter in Ramsey.

[Hogskin]

Skinsrock, that is a good point, but it ignores a couple improtant facts. The Falcons offense last year had NOTHING but Vick, and had a bad line. There are very few NFL STARTERS who could have replaced Vick, a very rare and special talent, on last year's Falcons and kept it together. The Redskins are not anywhere near that shape. They will have an excellent line this year, and have very good talent across the board on offense. They do not depend on the QB for everything.

Secondly, there are much better backups readily available than what the Falcons had last year. In fact the Skins' current 3rd string is one of them.

And don't kid yourself about Gibbs. He would not hesitate for 10 seconds if he got the opportunity to bring a proven, young stud QB (Vick) in here for an aging QB who was very good, and a promising young QB who needs a lot of development in his footwork, decision-making speed, and release speed. I like Ramsey's potential a lot, but he is not quite there yet. That is why Gibbs went after a QB as soon as he got here. Vick is the real thing for sure. Anyway, the trade is a moot point. No way the Falcons would make that idiotic trade and doom themselves to at least a couple years of fighting to escape the cellar, while putting the Redskins in immediate Super Bowl contention.