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Old 10-30-2023, 07:52 AM   #1
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Re: Trade deadline approaching...

Our coaching has been so bad for so long, it’s not hard to imagine some of the folks on these lists going elsewhere and flourishing. And as I don’t trust this regime to get good value in any trade, I’d be happiest doing nothing and letting real grownups deal with the roster starting in January.


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Old 10-30-2023, 08:44 AM   #2
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Our coaching has been so bad for so long, it’s not hard to imagine some of the folks on these lists going elsewhere and flourishing. And as I don’t trust this regime to get good value in any trade, I’d be happiest doing nothing and letting real grownups deal with the roster starting in January.


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Ditto! Unless we're wildly blown away by an offer then I'd rather not allow a lame duck group to make wholesale changes per se'. If they move one of either Sweat or Young then fine. But I do not want this current group trading two or more players as you know they more than likely screw it up.
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Old 10-30-2023, 09:42 AM   #3
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Re: Trade deadline approaching...

There is a report that one team offered a 3rd round pick for Sweat, and it could turn into 2nd round pick if Sweat agrees to an extension with the new team.. Yeah, no thanks. I would prefer to sign Sweat to an extension instead of taking this offer.
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Old 10-30-2023, 09:55 AM   #4
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There is a report that one team offered a 3rd round pick for Sweat, and it could turn into 2nd round pick if Sweat agrees to an extension with the new team.. Yeah, no thanks. I would prefer to sign Sweat to an extension instead of taking this offer.
I would do that if true. Getting five years of productivity out of a first round pick and then turning it into a second is a solid deal.

I would hope the ownership, if the plan is to let go of the coaching staff at the end of the season, wouldn't allow the current FO to make the trade without ownership approval. If they do we might have bigger things to worry about with the new owners than we realize.

The key piece is will Sweat want to sign with us. He is a UFA so extending him is off the table. If they know he won't then take the 2nd of a comp 3rd. If he is open to resigning then hopefully they talk that out.
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Old 10-30-2023, 09:46 AM   #5
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No way I trade anyone… Let the new Staff do all this .
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Old 10-30-2023, 09:54 AM   #6
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Really odd how we blast Ron for all the moves he's made here to date, but we trust the guy to make a good trade now? The guy who traded Trent for a 3rd and a 5th??

I say fuck no to Ron making any more deals here, let a new GM sort all of this out. Honestly I'm disappointed new ownership hasn't started to make front office moves. Maybe that's coming soon. It would be nice to hit the offseason running with a new GM in place.

Trade Terry? Some of you have lost your damn minds.
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Old 10-30-2023, 09:58 AM   #7
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Really odd how we blast Ron for all the moves he's made here to date, but we trust the guy to make a good trade now? The guy who traded Trent for a 3rd and a 5th??

I say fuck no to Ron making any more deals here, let a new GM sort all of this out. Honestly I'm disappointed new ownership hasn't started to make front office moves. Maybe that's coming soon. It would be nice to hit the offseason running with a new GM in place.

Trade Terry? Some of you have lost your damn minds.
I would think any trade that was possible wouldn't have Rivera being the last clearance step. I would bet that Harris has some behind the scenes help on player evaluations, and that he would make the decision to say yes/no to any specific trade.

Blow this whole franchise up, from the HC down.

I'd keep Howell, McLaurin, Dotson, and Payne. Other than that, if its not bolted to the floor, sell if the price is right. I'd add Curl to this list too if he can be re-signed, but if not, he can be traded too.
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Old 10-30-2023, 09:59 AM   #8
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If they don't trade many of these guys before the deadline then they are most certainly going straight to free agency and we will get nothing in return. We have built this roster up in our minds so much the last four years but they haven't won anything and any new staff will be bringing their own guys in
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If they don't trade many of these guys before the deadline then they are most certainly going straight to free agency and we will get nothing in return. We have built this roster up in our minds so much the last four years but they haven't won anything and any new staff will be bringing their own guys in
If the best we can do is a 3rd for someone like Sweat, might as well take the compensatory pick if he walks.
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If the best we can do is a 3rd for someone like Sweat, might as well take the compensatory pick if he walks.
We have a shit ton of cap space, with a new GM coming in. We will very likely be having multiple big FA signings this off-season, those can cancel out compensatory picks. I don't think you can rely on those. And those picks wouldn't be until 2025, if we did get any.

I'd rather have a 3rd rounder in 2024 then a 3rd rounder in 2025 anyways.

You're going to get a discount offer when a guy is in the last year of his contract. That needs to factor in as well.
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We have a shit ton of cap space, with a new GM coming in. We will very likely be having multiple big FA signings this off-season, those can cancel out compensatory picks. I don't think you can rely on those. And those picks wouldn't be until 2025, if we did get any.

I'd rather have a 3rd rounder in 2024 then a 3rd rounder in 2025 anyways.

You're going to get a discount offer when a guy is in the last year of his contract. That needs to factor in as well.
I really hope the last thing we do is spend big in free agency.
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I'm trading Chase for anything I can get. We've seen enough to know what he is at this point. Toohill is every bit as good if not better.
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I'm trading Chase for anything I can get. We've seen enough to know what he is at this point. Toohill is every bit as good if not better.
My allegiance to anyone on the roster outside of McLaurin is pretty much gone. Burn it all down and build the team culture back up. I'd prefer to keep Payne, but honestly, if we traded all 4 DL starters, I'd be perfectly fine with that.

I would like to re-sign Curl (or he would be a good franchise tag target for 1 year possibly). Build the offense up around McLaurin/Howell and the defense up around Curl. Make those 3 guys the team captains and see what we can build with a fresh start.
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Old 10-30-2023, 10:18 AM   #14
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I'm trading Chase for anything I can get. We've seen enough to know what he is at this point. Toohill is every bit as good if not better.
Outside of Payne I'm ready to blow up the DL. They've been overrated AF.
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Outside of Payne I'm ready to blow up the DL. They've been overrated AF.
I’d like to see Allen under “new management”

Payne is a must stay. I’d keep Chase another year under the tag and would move Sweat this week for a 3rd and pick swap.
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