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Old 12-29-2005, 10:33 AM   #1
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Re: Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career

Lavar Arrington will not have the same physical capabilities as he once did with the injuries he's suffered in the past years. It's pretty obvious if you look at what he's saying , but like any man with too much pride, he's attempting to blame somebody else for his own shortcomings. Lavar proves that he is not a true Redskin, despite the fact that he believes fans view him as some sort of Brett Farve or Ray Lewis, when he airs out his issues at the most inopportune time of the year.

For all that talk about Smoot, Bailey, Stephen Davis, etc.

I actually was pretty pleased with how Daniel Snyder dealt with them. Although Champ Bailey has done well for the Broncos, he has not been the one player to put them over the top. The two times the Broncos played the Colts in the playoffs, Manning and the passing attack ripped them apart. Snyder and the Front Office do deserve some criticism for giving up an additional 2nd round pick in the Bailey-Portis trade, instead of just going player for player.

Fred Smoot, although a decent cover corner, is a terrible tackler, and was not worth what he was asking for.

Stephen Davis was a key piece of the puzzle in the Panthers run in 2003, but Jake Delhomme, Steve Smith, and that defense played a Bigger role in their success that year. Davis did miss a few games that year as well, and the other RBs they had filled in just fine.

What Snyder has realized, with the help of Greg Williams, is that if you get average to above average players who have a passion for the game, and who initially sign very reasonable contracts, great coaching can make those players much better, and you can do well in this league since these players have a desire to win, and don't have the egos from all the money they are getting.

When we had all those big names, as soon as we reached 5-6, or 3-4, those players lost hope, and started criticizing the coaching staff and looking to next year. Not this team, and not with these players.

The only one person I wish we had kept was Antonio Pierce; I don't feel we handled that situation well by letting him go to a division rivial, but I was glad we didn't give Smoot and Bailey all the dollars they were asking for. I am tired of seeing Bailey pull up with a hamstring or some sort of injury everytime a receiver blows by him.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:24 AM   #2
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I just don't understand why people keep sticking up for him with his constant whining in the media.

I can understand his frustrations, but the guy needs to learn when to shut the hell up. The week of a huge game is not the time to be discussing your future with the team.

There will be plenty of time after the season for this. Now is not the time.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:03 PM   #3
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I just don't understand why people keep sticking up for him with his constant whining in the media.

I can understand his frustrations, but the guy needs to learn when to shut the hell up. The week of a huge game is not the time to be discussing your future with the team.

There will be plenty of time after the season for this. Now is not the time.
I can understand and sympathize with both sides of this argument, but I'm still pretty torn.

I've actually had the opportunity to meet Lavar in person in his home and he came across as one of the most humble, down to earth, all around nice guys you'll ever meet. Now I know you can't base a football player's worth on how "nice" he is or on my 15 minute encounter with him, but I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think Lavar was the superstar around here for years, and got used to it. Not through sheer arrogance or pride, but simply because he WAS the best we had and we treated him like it. After his injury he comes back and tries to readjust to a new system where GW does things differently. I think we can be somewhat empathetic and patient with someone who's being placed in an entirely new situation that he's not used to. I think Lavar handled the entire thing with a great deal of class and dignity and minimal "whining" and managed to fight his way back.

The interview with the Times does have bad timing. I'm inclined to blame shoddy Washington Times reporting as much as I am Lavar. Still, I'm not even sure I'd characterize his comments in the article as whining, lack of team spirit or whatever you want to call it. It sounded to me like a guy who has a pretty realistic perspective on his career and future and is just giving an honest answer.

Compared to any number of other NFL stars Lavar has been incredibly mature and a class act about the whole situation.

I think the whole Times article has been blown WAY out of proportion, and we fans are to blame. So he didn't pick the optimal time for an interview - it's not like a 2 page article with relatively benign comments by the player is just going to totally derail this team, demolish their focus and drive and send us spiralling out of the playoffs. I'd certainly hope they're a little more focused than to be so disrupted by something so minor.

Let's not make this in to more than it is.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:07 PM   #4
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I can understand and sympathize with both sides of this argument, but I'm still pretty torn.

I've actually had the opportunity to meet Lavar in person in his home and he came across as one of the most humble, down to earth, all around nice guys you'll ever meet. Now I know you can't base a football player's worth on how "nice" he is or on my 15 minute encounter with him, but I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think Lavar was the superstar around here for years, and got used to it. Not through sheer arrogance or pride, but simply because he WAS the best we had and we treated him like it. After his injury he comes back and tries to readjust to a new system where GW does things differently. I think we can be somewhat empathetic and patient with someone who's being placed in an entirely new situation that he's not used to. I think Lavar handled the entire thing with a great deal of class and dignity and minimal "whining" and managed to fight his way back.

The interview with the Times does have bad timing. I'm inclined to blame shoddy Washington Times reporting as much as I am Lavar. Still, I'm not even sure I'd characterize his comments in the article as whining, lack of team spirit or whatever you want to call it. It sounded to me like a guy who has a pretty realistic perspective on his career and future and is just giving an honest answer.

Compared to any number of other NFL stars Lavar has been incredibly mature and a class act about the whole situation.

I think the whole Times article has been blown WAY out of proportion, and we fans are to blame. So he didn't pick the optimal time for an interview - it's not like a 2 page article with relatively benign comments by the player is just going to totally derail this team, demolish their focus and drive and send us spiralling out of the playoffs. I'd certainly hope they're a little more focused than to be so disrupted by something so minor.

Let's not make this in to more than it is.
wells said here....if this derails the team they arent professionals or even humans... its us fans talking i am more than sure the players and staff couldn't give a f_ck...and thats what they do blow things so far out of proportion.... everyone wants that big story..and rating ..and sadly some people follow it like a bad drug
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:04 PM   #5
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Ahhh... a cool head speaks... shhh... we should listen:

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I can understand and sympathize with both sides of this argument, but I'm still pretty torn.

I've actually had the opportunity to meet Lavar in person in his home and he came across as one of the most humble, down to earth, all around nice guys you'll ever meet. Now I know you can't base a football player's worth on how "nice" he is or on my 15 minute encounter with him, but I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think Lavar was the superstar around here for years, and got used to it. Not through sheer arrogance or pride, but simply because he WAS the best we had and we treated him like it. After his injury he comes back and tries to readjust to a new system where GW does things differently. I think we can be somewhat empathetic and patient with someone who's being placed in an entirely new situation that he's not used to. I think Lavar handled the entire thing with a great deal of class and dignity and minimal "whining" and managed to fight his way back.

The interview with the Times does have bad timing. I'm inclined to blame shoddy Washington Times reporting as much as I am Lavar. Still, I'm not even sure I'd characterize his comments in the article as whining, lack of team spirit or whatever you want to call it. It sounded to me like a guy who has a pretty realistic perspective on his career and future and is just giving an honest answer.

Compared to any number of other NFL stars Lavar has been incredibly mature and a class act about the whole situation.

I think the whole Times article has been blown WAY out of proportion, and we fans are to blame. So he didn't pick the optimal time for an interview - it's not like a 2 page article with relatively benign comments by the player is just going to totally derail this team, demolish their focus and drive and send us spiralling out of the playoffs. I'd certainly hope they're a little more focused than to be so disrupted by something so minor.

Let's not make this in to more than it is.
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:09 PM   #6
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I can understand and sympathize with both sides of this argument, but I'm still pretty torn.

I've actually had the opportunity to meet Lavar in person in his home and he came across as one of the most humble, down to earth, all around nice guys you'll ever meet. Now I know you can't base a football player's worth on how "nice" he is or on my 15 minute encounter with him, but I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think Lavar was the superstar around here for years, and got used to it. Not through sheer arrogance or pride, but simply because he WAS the best we had and we treated him like it. After his injury he comes back and tries to readjust to a new system where GW does things differently. I think we can be somewhat empathetic and patient with someone who's being placed in an entirely new situation that he's not used to. I think Lavar handled the entire thing with a great deal of class and dignity and minimal "whining" and managed to fight his way back.

The interview with the Times does have bad timing. I'm inclined to blame shoddy Washington Times reporting as much as I am Lavar. Still, I'm not even sure I'd characterize his comments in the article as whining, lack of team spirit or whatever you want to call it. It sounded to me like a guy who has a pretty realistic perspective on his career and future and is just giving an honest answer.

Compared to any number of other NFL stars Lavar has been incredibly mature and a class act about the whole situation.

I think the whole Times article has been blown WAY out of proportion, and we fans are to blame. So he didn't pick the optimal time for an interview - it's not like a 2 page article with relatively benign comments by the player is just going to totally derail this team, demolish their focus and drive and send us spiralling out of the playoffs. I'd certainly hope they're a little more focused than to be so disrupted by something so minor.

Let's not make this in to more than it is.
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:55 AM   #7
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i,m like joe gibbs on redskins.com tv -this is the first i heard of it and i have no comment on the matter all we are focusing on and should be focusing on is philadelphia.focus,focus,focus- i wouldn,t even give the media the time and day for what it,s worth. especially the naysayers of the media.
and that goes for this entire city focus on this game only.i know i,m ready and focused for sunday.


this sunday is big for us since the 99 season.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:08 PM   #8
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i,m like joe gibbs on redskins.com tv -this is the first i heard of it and i have no comment on the matter all we are focusing on and should be focusing on is philadelphia.focus,focus,focus- i wouldn,t even give the media the time and day for what it,s worth. especially the naysayers of the media.
and that goes for this entire city focus on this game only.i know i,m ready and focused for sunday.


this sunday is big for us since the 99 season.

Stay focused I hope you play well and you staying focused helps us win the game. Just a joke!!! I am confused why we as fans can't talk about the playoffs, the superbowl, etc.... I love the skins and bring my fan "A" game every weekend whether it is at the stadium or at home. The same will hold true this week as I watch and cheer from my home. I am flattered that some are worried about another fan getting ahead of themselves only to be hurt if we don't make the playoffs or talk of a playoff game causes us to loose. This forum I don't think has any outcome on this game though the force is strong my son! Skins will come to play and as much as we look ahead or talk about Lavar it is not handled the same in the Skins locker room I am sure. Go skins, beat the hell out of the Eagles and get us a playoff berth!
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:12 PM   #9
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Stay focused I hope you play well and you staying focused helps us win the game. Just a joke!!! I am confused why we as fans can't talk about the playoffs, the superbowl, etc.... I love the skins and bring my fan "A" game every weekend whether it is at the stadium or at home. The same will hold true this week as I watch and cheer from my home. I am flattered that some are worried about another fan getting ahead of themselves only to be hurt if we don't make the playoffs or talk of a playoff game causes us to loose. This forum I don't think has any outcome on this game though the force is strong my son! Skins will come to play and as much as we look ahead or talk about Lavar it is not handled the same in the Skins locker room I am sure. Go skins, beat the hell out of the Eagles and get us a playoff berth!
Exactly.

The entire defense getting jailed for posession of coke = distraction.

Polar ice caps melting and flooding the entire DC area = distraction.

Lots and lots and lots of strippers = distraction.

Lots and lots and lots of cheerleaders who dance like strippers = distraction.

Lavar making a few innocuous comments in a third-rate newsrag = barely a blip on the radar.

Let's keep some perspective and just move along.
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Exactly.

The entire defense getting jailed for posession of coke = distraction.

Polar ice caps melting and flooding the entire DC area = distraction.

Lots and lots and lots of strippers = distraction.

Lots and lots and lots of cheerleaders who dance like strippers = distraction.

Lavar making a few innocuous comments in a third-rate newsrag = barely a blip on the radar.

Let's keep some perspective and just move along.
Tony Dungy's Son's Death Distraction....you have the right idea distraction ..what a joke ...the only distraction is with us the fans
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64 posts and over 812 views to this thread is a distraction.
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I don't think LaVar's comments will distract the team come Sunday, hell it's probably not even distracting them now.

But you can bet this doesn't sit well with Gibbs and the rest of the staff. For a coach who is intent on keeping everything in-house, you just know that Gibbs cringed when the WT article came out.

The timing was bad, and there was simply no need for this kind of discussion to be occuring at this time of the season, bottom line, and I think we can all agree on that.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:21 PM   #13
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I think this actually becomes more of a distraction when Gibbs even responds to it. Not that he did in any official way but clearly he didn't keep it a secret that he wasn't happy and that got out. It just keeps the story going rather than letting it die without fanfare. I don't know how much these tiny distractions actually distract but I think I speak for all of us in saying that we don't need anything to be a distraction at all right now. I would agree that this shouldn't be a big deal but god knows we'll be pissed if we find out half the players are mad at him and won't work effectively with him or something like that because of it. That's why these things need to be avoided. Not because they definitely cause distraction but because there's no good point to introducing anything that could even potentially be an issue. No matter how small that potential is.
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there are simultaneous conflicts happening at once. This is officially a distraction!

STOP THE VIOLENCE
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there are simultaneous conflicts happening at once. This is officially a distraction!

STOP THE VIOLENCE

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