The Sam Howell Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Howell doesn't need EB, he can do it on his own, he's proven it.

How has he proven that? Is he calling the plays? Dude is gonna be a stud but he isn’t Peyton Manning yet.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

How has he proven that? Is he calling the plays? Dude is gonna be a stud but he isn’t Peyton Manning yet.

Agree. Bieneimy hasn't proven squat. I'd remove him as well if I was changing staffs.

EDIT: I read the initial post incorrectly.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by punch it in

How has he proven that?

Last year with Turner (one game) college and HS. Kid has it, he can work with any OC. EB needs to learn about the running game, till then I can't take him serious as an OC.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Last year with Turner (one game) college and HS. Kid has it, he can work with any OC. EB needs to learn about the running game, till then I can't take him serious as an OC.

Any quarterback who ever played one snap in the NFL proved it in highschool and college. You can’t compare that to the pros. Last year was one game like you said so…

EB and Howell are a good team. He is a pass first guy. Our offense has shown up most of the year. What he needs desperately is an oline that can give the passing game time to develop. We are not able to throw deep most of the time.

I have absolutely no problems with the direction of the offense- they just need to upgrade the line. It is an easy fix.

The defense however is an absolute dumpster fire from the coordinator down to almost every player minus roughly 4 of them.

[SFREDSKIN]

Sam is 217 yards away from 3K yards passing, he could get close to 4500-5000 yards with 7 games remaining. 17 TD's 9 int's.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Sam is 217 yards away from 3K yards passing, he could get close to 4500-5000 yards with 7 games remaining. 17 TD's 9 int's.

And that’s with a bad OL…


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[Meks]

Originally Posted by punch it in

How has he proven that? Is he calling the plays? Dude is gonna be a stud but he isn’t Peyton Manning yet.

I'm sure he wouldn't be calling telegraphed bullshit runs oh you know, 10 times per game only.

Give #14 any decent OC available he'd do just as.good if not better than he already has been... sans OL troubles but better OCs would account for that.

EB is expendable, Sam it not.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Meks

I'm sure he wouldn't be calling telegraphed bullshit runs oh you know, 10 times per game only.

Give #14 any decent OC available he'd do just as.good if not better than he already has been... sans OL troubles but better OCs would account for that.

EB is expendable, Sam it not.

I disagree. I know it isn’t the popular opinion but if Sam had time and the deep routes could develop nobody would be complaining about running the ball. It would actually open up the run.

Nobody complained about Don Coryell not running enough lol. I hope we become an absolute beast of a passing team with EB and Sam.

Ill also point again to KC’s offense. They have scored 30 points twice this year. Do not be so quick to get rid of EB. A better line will help take the top off defenses and open up the run.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I disagree. I know it isn’t the popular opinion but if Sam had time and the deep routes could develop nobody would be complaining about running the ball. It would actually open up the run.

Nobody complained about Don Coryell not running enough lol. I hope we become an absolute beast of a passing team with EB and Sam.

Ill also point again to KC’s offense. They have scored 30 points twice this year. Do not be so quick to get rid of EB. A better line will help take the top off defenses and open up the run.

My argument to this is what did the Chargers ever win? They sure had some really good teams back then, Coryell was a great coach, but they could never close the deal.

When you have an offense like this, sure it's great for numbers and all, but you are going to have days where passing the ball isn't going work- it could be that your opponent has a great rush, weather, injuries...

There are some exceptions of course but having a pass first at all cost offense generally does not mean winning a SB.

Sam is good enough to work w/ another OC. That is the least of my worries.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

My argument to this is what did the Chargers ever win? They sure had some really good teams back then, Coryell was a great coach, but they could never close the deal.

When you have an offense like this, sure it's great for numbers and all, but you are going to have days where passing the ball isn't going work- it could be that your opponent has a great rush, weather, injuries...

There are some exceptions of course but having a pass first at all cost offense generally does not mean winning a SB.

Sam is good enough to work w/ another OC. That is the least of my worries.

Sam is clicking and id hate to introduce him to his third offense in 3 years. Hopefully a new HC will lean on EB to balance the attack.

Im not denying the fact that he shys away from the run but if we had any semblance of a defense we would probably have 7 wins right now or more and this wouldn’t be an issue.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Sam is clicking and id hate to introduce him to his third offense in 3 years. Hopefully a new HC will lean on EB to balance the attack.

Im not denying the fact that he shys away from the run but if we had any semblance of a defense we would probably have 7 wins right now or more and this wouldn’t be an issue.

EB will either be the HC here next season or coaching offense/HC somewhere else. I just don't see a HC coming in and not bringing someone with him that he has worked with himself. Could be wrong, but I don't see him staying at OC here.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

EB will either be the HC here next season or coaching offense/HC somewhere else. I just don't see a HC coming in and not bringing someone with him that he has worked with himself. Could be wrong, but I don't see him staying at OC here.

I actually don’t either but you never know. Im just saying i think he should be the OC.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I disagree. I know it isn’t the popular opinion but if Sam had time and the deep routes could develop nobody would be complaining about running the ball. It would actually open up the run.

Nobody complained about Don Coryell not running enough lol. I hope we become an absolute beast of a passing team with EB and Sam.

Ill also point again to KC’s offense. They have scored 30 points twice this year. Do not be so quick to get rid of EB. A better line will help take the top off defenses and open up the run.

Not running enough? Did you forget Chuck Muncie