(Twice-annual guaranteed L) Giants postgame thread

[skinsfaninok]

So much for Kam Curl getting that huge payday. That dude has been quiet for weeks. Does he ever make a play? When was the last time he had a pick or forced a fumble? Let him walk too


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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

So much for Kam Curl getting that huge payday. That dude has been quiet for weeks. Does he ever make a play? When was the last time he had a pick or forced a fumble? Let him walk too


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So overrated. Don’t even realize he is on the field. Our secondary is challenging our oline as the most pathetic unit on the field.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So overrated. Don’t even realize he is on the field. Our secondary is challenging our oline as the most pathetic unit on the field.

Every fan base does this- they all think their players are better than what they really are.

None of our starters could start for the Eagles.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Every fan base does this- they all think their players are better than what they really are.

None of our starters could start for the Eagles.

Our secondary is atrocious. And Ron took two dbacks with the first two picks. This last draft was atrocious. Rons last shit stain. Well besides every game he has coached this year. Dude cannot be gone quick enough. I love how he hangs his hat on Sam too. Wow real keen Ron. You needed a quarterback desperately and a former first round talent was sitting there in round 5. What a stroke of genius picking him.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Our secondary is atrocious. And Ron took two dbacks with the first two picks. This last draft was atrocious. Rons last shit stain. Well besides every game he has coached this year. Dude cannot be gone quick enough. I love how he hangs his hat on Sam too. Wow real keen Ron. You needed a quarterback desperately and a former first round talent was sitting there in round 5. What a stroke of genius picking him.

Change of DB coach is a lot of the problem, Ron/JDR choice of replacement for Chris Harris has been typically Ron, underwhelming to say the least

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So overrated. Don’t even realize he is on the field. Our secondary is challenging our oline as the most pathetic unit on the field.

His dad was on Twitter all summer talking about him being elite LMAO. Bro your son ain't all that and he's an Okie so I should be showing him more love but he never ever makes plays. He's JAG.. No way would I pay him top tier $

[Chief X_Phackter]

They can ALL literally walk. Not one player or coach I'm that concerned about keeping at this point. We're like 2-3 years from being competitive, and that's assuming we now have owners who can actually piece together a competent staff. It's a lot to expect... I'm not holding my breath.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

They can ALL literally walk. Not one player or coach I'm that concerned about keeping at this point. We're like 2-3 years from being competitive, and that's assuming we now have owners who can actually piece together a competent staff. It's a lot to expect... I'm not holding my breath.

Not even Jonathan Allen or Terry McLaurin can't stay ?

[calia]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

They can ALL literally walk. Not one player or coach I'm that concerned about keeping at this point. We're like 2-3 years from being competitive, and that's assuming we now have owners who can actually piece together a competent staff. It's a lot to expect... I'm not holding my breath.

DeMeco Ryans has the Texans competing in year 1 with a roster that was believed to be one of the worst. Dan Campbell had the Lions(!) best the world champs in the first game of year 3 and on the road. Doug Pedersen got the Jags moving in the right direction pretty fast.

RR has done the opposite. We need a real coach and it shouldn’t be a 3-4 year rebuild. We have more starting pieces now than any of those teams did, in my opinion.


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[Chief X_Phackter]

Of course they can stay, but I won't be concerned if they don't.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I didn't watch the game...but looks like Scary T had 5 catches, and David Mayo had more sacks than JA...?

[AnonEmouse]

I've reached the point of giving up on the season, 2-3 weeks ahead of when I expected. I was going along with the idea of letting RR see out the season given the then logic, but I think he's totally lost the locker room, and JDR has lost the D (probably weeks ago tbh). This game showed neither can coach adjustments, motivation and certainly not personnel selection. I'm going back to the idea of firing them both and elevating EB to interim.

1) If they've lost the locker room, what effect is this going to have on the players heading into the offseason if we wait until week 18? Are we going to have players we want to keep demanding a trade or signing elsewhere in FA? Are they going to be so low on morale that it takes a miracle coach to turn things around? Yeah they get paid, but they have to WANT to play too.
2) We have the chance to give EB an advance interview on being a HC, whether its here or not. If he wants to be a HC he should jump a the chance of interim and give it all he's got if he doesn't want to look like another Josh McDaniels. That may not result in more wins, but it should result in better play and the chance for a new GM to assess the roster before the offseason.
3) While RR is still 'in charge' there remains the risk of poor personnel choices causing more damage. Not a big risk mind you, but a risk nonetheless.

If I'm Harris I fire them both Friday morning regardless (it's a short week and no chance any interim coach would be ready in 3 days). I'd probably fire the key FO staff too while I'm at it and bring in at least an interim GM to steer the ship until the end of the season.

I just think there's enough damage done and there will be heavy HC competition come January, so get ahead of the game. Or at least make it clear you have a plan and there will be sweeping changes. Its too late to be conservative if you ask me.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I've reached the point of giving up on the season, 2-3 weeks ahead of when I expected. I was going along with the idea of letting RR see out the season given the then logic, but I think he's totally lost the locker room, and JDR has lost the D (probably weeks ago tbh). This game showed neither can coach adjustments, motivation and certainly not personnel selection. I'm going back to the idea of firing them both and elevating EB to interim.

1) If they've lost the locker room, what effect is this going to have on the players heading into the offseason if we wait until week 18? Are we going to have players we want to keep demanding a trade or signing elsewhere in FA? Are they going to be so low on morale that it takes a miracle coach to turn things around? Yeah they get paid, but they have to WANT to play too.
2) We have the chance to give EB an advance interview on being a HC, whether its here or not. If he wants to be a HC he should jump a the chance of interim and give it all he's got if he doesn't want to look like another Josh McDaniels. That may not result in more wins, but it should result in better play and the chance for a new GM to assess the roster before the offseason.
3) While RR is still 'in charge' there remains the risk of poor personnel choices causing more damage. Not a big risk mind you, but a risk nonetheless.

If I'm Harris I fire them both Friday morning regardless (it's a short week and no chance any interim coach would be ready in 3 days). I'd probably fire the key FO staff too while I'm at it and bring in at least an interim GM to steer the ship until the end of the season.

I just think there's enough damage done and there will be heavy HC competition come January, so get ahead of the game. Or at least make it clear you have a plan and there will be sweeping changes. Its too late to be conservative if you ask me.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that RR and JDR must go as soon as is reasonable and I concur that Friday morning is that time.

I have my doubts about EB as Interim HC because he is such a hard-ass. That said, I have no idea who else to put in that role. At least, EB gets a chance to show what he's got in a HC role.

I don't know what it gains us to clear out FO staff at this time other than Martin Mayhew and a couple of overpaid Carolina Panthers leftovers who apparently are just taking up space in the building.

Josh Harris could and I think should make a statement about the new direction of the team and announce that the search for a new GM will start now.

[mooby]

The sacks were the amazing part Chief. Some drives featured multiple sacks and 3-and-out's, convincing me we were gonna dominate them. And then when he wasn't getting sacked Devito was shredding us. Mind-boggling really. Idk how you get 9 sacks and still manage to never phase the qb. Howell was phased all damn day.

We lost to a 3rd string qb making his 2nd career start who lives with his parents. Pain.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mooby

The sacks were the amazing part Chief. Some drives featured multiple sacks and 3-and-out's, convincing me we were gonna dominate them. And then when he wasn't getting sacked Devito was shredding us. Mind-boggling really. Idk how you get 9 sacks and still manage to never phase the qb. Howell was phased all damn day.

We lost to a 3rd string qb making his 2nd career start who lives with his parents. Pain.

And we are not surprised at all one bit


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