Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...901331_pf.html

A Dishonorable Discharge

By Mike Wise
Friday, December 30, 2005; E01

Gosh that's a sad article. Sure, Lavar isn't some completely innocent little child in all of this, but it sure sounds like a guy who really believed in and loved the Redskins organization only to be tossed aside.

I'm glad he has some perspective on life and I'm sure he'll be successful after football. It's quite a testament to his love for the organization that he will pretty much retire before playing anywhere else.

Yes, I know, the team is more than just one guy. But it sure is sad seeing one good player after another getting cast aside like trash.

The team IS more than the individual player, but it shouldn't be at the expense of the individual.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Gosh that's a sad article. Sure, Lavar isn't some completely innocent little child in all of this, but it sure sounds like a guy who really believed in and loved the Redskins organization only to be tossed aside.

I'm glad he has some perspective on life and I'm sure he'll be successful after football. It's quite a testament to his love for the organization that he will pretty much retire before playing anywhere else.

Yes, I know, the team is more than just one guy. But it sure is sad seeing one good player after another getting cast aside like trash.

The team IS more than the individual player, but it shouldn't be at the expense of the individual.

I can see both sides of it, but in the end I don't feel very sorry for LaVar.

That's life in the NFL. It's a business first and foremost. Teams cut ties with their stars and move on all the time. I wonder if LaVar is mentally tough enough and that's why the coaches are so hard on him.

From the sound of it, this defensive staff is very demanding. They're obviously looking for certain kinds of players, and perhaps they're pushing LaVar to see how he responds and to see if he can be their kind of guy.

Sadly it appears he's simply not their kind of guy. LaVar needs a certain level of nurturing and coddling, and that's simply not going to happen from the likes of Williams, Blache & Lindsey.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I can see both sides of it, but in the end I don't feel very sorry for LaVar.

That's life in the NFL. It's a business first and foremost. Teams cut ties with their stars and move on all the time. I wonder if LaVar is mentally tough enough and that's why the coaches are so hard on him.

From the sound of it, this defensive staff is very demanding. They're obviously looking for certain kinds of players, and perhaps they're pushing LaVar to see how he responds and to see if he can be their kind of guy.

Sadly it appears he's simply not their kind of guy. LaVar needs a certain level of nurturing and coddling, and that's simply not going to happen from the likes of Williams, Blache & Lindsey.

The more this story unravels, it seems the emotions of Lavar got the best of him again. I don't think it is coincidence that Lavar goes off and spurts his mouth off after he gets jumped on by Lindsey. It now does not surprise me that the media jumped at the opportunity to interview Lavar this week after catching wind of the confrontation, it hasn't failed the media yet this year knowing when to ask Lavar those critical questions about the prganization right after he is sent to the naughty chair. What was I thinking Lavar the coach should not get on you about missing assignments, you are Mr. Redskin and the fans love you. I love Lavar as well, but his belief and emotions as to what should be said to him or he should be handled different because he has been here for a while, he needs to act like a man if he wants to be treated like a man and stop crying to the media.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

What was I thinking Lavar the coach should not get on you about missing assignments, you are Mr. Redskin and the fans love you.

Unless the coaches also flip out on Springs for every missed tackle, or Taylor for every blown coverage, or Wynn for being practically useless, then it's obvious that LaVar is being singled out. Other players seem to agree is the case too.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Unless the coaches also flip out on Springs for every missed tackle, or Taylor for every blown coverage, or Wynn for being practically useless, then it's obvious that LaVar is being singled out. Other players seem to agree is the case too.

I would be completely surprised if GW and the coaching staff has not jumped on other players about missed assignments, the difference we do not know because like the majority of other players it comes with the territory. I don't remeber any player saying Lavar was singled out and the coaches do not get on anyone but him. I recall everyone saying GW lets everyone know if they are not playing up to par along with Greg Blache and Dale Lindsey are all outspoken and demand the best out of their players and ride them all. Professionals keep that in house and don't take it personal each person is accountable and should be able to handle criticism. Nobody said they were going to Bench him for the mistakes, but in game of this importance do you not really think if you are making mistakes that could cost your team a coach is not going to get into your ass.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

I don't remeber any player saying Lavar was singled out and the coaches do not get on anyone but him.

Originally Posted by Mike Wise

He finally hung up on Lindsey, and the feud carried over into the locker room, growing more profane and personal. It ended with Arrington telling Lindsey to "Back off!" and "Treat me like a man!" According to two persons privy to the altercation, the coach went a tad more overboard than the player.

"I was thinking, 'Enough already,' " said one player, on condition of anonymity. "Let LaVar be."

I'm not saying LaVar is the only player who gets yelled at, but at least a few people thought this altercation was getting "profane and personal", and another player thought Lindsey was going over the line, and not just giving the typical "getting on him" speech.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

From the sound of it, this defensive staff is very demanding. They're obviously looking for certain kinds of players, and perhaps they're pushing LaVar to see how he responds and to see if he can be their kind of guy.

Sadly it appears he's simply not their kind of guy. LaVar needs a certain level of nurturing and coddling, and that's simply not going to happen from the likes of Williams, Blache & Lindsey.

I doubt very seriously that LaVar needs any kind of coddling to perform. There's a huge gap between coddling and berating. And they're not trying to push LaVar to see how he responds, they're pushing him out the door.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I doubt very seriously that LaVar needs any kind of coddling to perform. There's a huge gap between coddling and berating. And they're not trying to push LaVar to see how he responds, they're pushing him out the door.

Well, that's your take on it.

Why are they pushing him out the door then?

Because they don't like him??

There has to be a legit reason behind this, that's all I'm looking for.

LaVar has proven to be a very emotional guy who tends to take things the wrong way and pout when things aren't going his way. I doubt the staff is treating him poorly for no good reason.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Because they don't like him??

There has to be a legit reason behind this, that's all I'm looking for.

Originally Posted by Mike Wise

He won't say who, but we already know where and with whom the enmity began. Snyder, the team owner who made him fabulously rich and befriended his charismatic, handsome linebacking star, dumped him quicker than AOL stock. From the moment Arrington filed a contract grievance in March 2004, contending the team omitted $6.5 million in bonus money agreed upon for the 2006 season, he was shuttled out of Snyder' suite and sent to the doghouse. The Redskins said they did not owe Arrington the money, and the linebacker eventually dropped the arbitration case.

But with Snyder no longer in his corner, it became open season on Arrington for the coaching staff.

When Arrington was hardly playing in late September and early October this season, he saw Snyder in a hallway and was about to offer some pleasantries. "Don't talk to me," the owner said, according to a person who saw the encounter. "I didn't have anything to do with this."

When Gibbs and his coaching staff took over the team two years ago, they did not consider Arrington to be part of the solution to the franchise's woes; they saw him as another impediment. They believed Arrington could not curb his individualism for the good of the team. They never got around the perception that he could not fit in. They saw Arrington as a nuisance -- a high-maintenance, high-salaried star who could never live up to his Pro Bowl aura or reputation.

Now I know this article is all completely false, because the coaches haven't ever said anything other than, "he misses assignments", but in my eyes, this tells me that they prejudged LaVar, and have viewed him as a problem from the start.

Now I'm not completely in LaVar's corner, because I do think this was a horrible time to make these comments to the media, but obviously, he's been getting the sh-t end of the stick since the new coaching regime got here.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Now I know this article is all completely false, because the coaches haven't ever said anything other than, "he misses assignments", but in my eyes, this tells me that they prejudged LaVar, and have viewed him as a problem from the start.

Now I'm not completely in LaVar's corner, because I do think this was a horrible time to make these comments to the media, but obviously, he's been getting the sh-t end of the stick since the new coaching regime got here.

Everyone else bought into assignments and proving day in and day out that we work as a team we win as a team. Lavar himself said I didn't know I had to show them in practice. How could he not they preach the off season program and the importance of practice since the get go. What part of the article did you assume was fact and that evidence is there to say they prejudged him ohh yeah it is because Mike Wise of the Post wrote it so it has to be fact or was the final nail in the couffin when after Lavar got yelled at by Lindsey and he has another outburst. The simple thing is they are building a team and they expect things from everybody on a team. Lavar can play and I don't care if he freelances I love watching him make plays, but I am not the coach and I do not make a game plan for individuals to follow to help this team win they do. These coaches are day in and day out coaching players 52 other players and one who has had his ego driven by diehard Arrington fans since 2000 who love the big play capability that he brings, but how come the other 52 are not crying the blues. Arrington is the only one who believes he can play within a system are all the coaches he played for and those players who played beside him all against him as well when they say he is out of position at times more so than many other players. Just play damn it, and stop worrying about what people write or say. I will be completely surprised if he follows through with the retiring mumbo jumbo, his demeanor and comments change like the wind. It is a business and no player is above the team, the owner, or the organization. Bailey was tired of the turnover, nothing against him so he chose to leave, Coles did not want to be here so see ya, Smoot and Pierce said they wanted to be here, but after releasing Coles and the cap hit we could not afford what they were asking for and the coaches made the call why am I going to pay Smoot more than the best corner Springs that is on the roster, that is the direction we are going sorry they missed the boat when we would have paid market value or higher for an individual. Those signings went much further than this year and looked at years ahead salary hits. It was not they were done wrong by the organization, they just could not fit a suitable contract to keep Pierce or Smoot they made a very reasonable offer they did not just say we are not going to be competitive you are not worth anything to us, but we are not going to break the bank. Then again their feelings were hurt due to the way Spurrier and Snyder ran the show in previous years and times are different under Gibbs and Snyder. Build for more stabalized team, no matter how hard you try you are going to loose key players, it happens to everyone. Forget Ty Law was just done so wrong by what most say is the best built team or one of the best built teams. You can't keep dipping in Free Agency and signing big name players or resigning them to lucrative contracts, IT IS NOT PERSONAL!

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Gosh that's a sad article. Sure, Lavar isn't some completely innocent little child in all of this, but it sure sounds like a guy who really believed in and loved the Redskins organization only to be tossed aside.

I'm glad he has some perspective on life and I'm sure he'll be successful after football. It's quite a testament to his love for the organization that he will pretty much retire before playing anywhere else.

Yes, I know, the team is more than just one guy. But it sure is sad seeing one good player after another getting cast aside like trash.

The team IS more than the individual player, but it shouldn't be at the expense of the individual.

I couldn't agree more. The Snyder regime has cast aside many good players and, in a lot of cases, they left with plenty of bitter memories of how they were treated. It's not just LaVar -- he is just next in a long line of players that have been poorly treated by this organization.