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Old 03-14-2024, 12:00 PM   #1
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It’s a one year deal and we had the worst LB’s in football. We can also draft one who can learn from the master now. It is a great move.

Tackle and Corner will be addressed in the draft.

We absolutely knocked FA out of the park. We have 9 new starters. 10 - forgot about Ott. 2020 pro bowl long snapper. All upgrades. All under 3 year contracts. Still 6 picks in the top 100. This is going to be a completely different team.
So you think Peters knocked it out of the park? We've been down this road before, signing a bunch of free agents.

Let's be honest, most of these guys are injury prone, past their primes or didn't live up to their potential. The good part is these are team friendly deals. Smart signings money wise.

I get what Peters is doing. He has to come in here and start turning this roster over. I just think a few of these signings are terrible. But some are good, particularly the center. Gotta get an experienced center if you're playing a rookie.
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So you think Peters knocked it out of the park? We've been down this road before, signing a bunch of free agents.

Let's be honest, most of these guys are injury prone, past their primes or didn't live up to their potential. The good part is these are team friendly deals. Smart signings money wise.

I get what Peters is doing. He has to come in here and start turning this roster over. I just think a few of these signings are terrible. But some are good, particularly the center. Gotta get an experienced center if you're playing a rookie.
Which ones are injury prone, or past their primes, or didnt live up to their potential
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Old 03-14-2024, 03:58 PM   #3
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Which ones are injury prone, or past their primes, or didnt live up to their potential
Ekeler averaged a paltry 3.5 ypc last year and had 628 yards and got hurt. But if he is used just as a 3rd down back then that's probably good.

Ertz .. always hurt, past his prime. Hoping we finally draft a true Y TE.

Wagner.. past his prime, can't run anymore but is still a beast in the box. It's a passing league so I would expect him to get exposed in the passing game. I remember Gibson toasting him when we played Seattle. Should have done more of that but EB is an idiot.

Fowler... never reached his potential but I like this one. Low risk, high reward.

Mariota... terrible. He's a effing quitter and I would never sign a guy like that. Plus he sucks. Sam has way more upside.

The rest are pretty good. I'm not gonna look at everything through my Commanders glasses. I don't hate all the signings. As I said I like some, some I don't. For the most part I like what Peters is going, gutting a bad roster.
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Ekeler averaged a paltry 3.5 ypc last year and had 628 yards and got hurt. But if he is used just as a 3rd down back then that's probably good.



Ertz .. always hurt, past his prime. Hoping we finally draft a true Y TE.



Wagner.. past his prime, can't run anymore but is still a beast in the box. It's a passing league so I would expect him to get exposed in the passing game. I remember Gibson toasting him when we played Seattle. Should have done more of that but EB is an idiot.



Fowler... never reached his potential but I like this one. Low risk, high reward.



Mariota... terrible. He's a effing quitter and I would never sign a guy like that. Plus he sucks. Sam has way more upside.



The rest are pretty good. I'm not gonna look at everything through my Commanders glasses. I don't hate all the signings. As I said I like some, some I don't. For the most part I like what Peters is going, gutting a bad roster.
We still have six draft picks in the top 101, the second wave of free agency which thanks to these contracts we have room to be a player in that part as well, And finally there's the cuts that come after the draft that we can take advantage of. To get this many top quality starters and role players this early gives this coaching staff a ton of room to plan and build their vision.

These moves aren't the end of the plan, they are clearly foundational moves for building a strong competitive franchise.

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We still have six draft picks in the top 101, the second wave of free agency which thanks to these contracts we have room to be a player in that part as well, And finally there's the cuts that come after the draft that we can take advantage of. To get this many top quality starters and role players this early gives this coaching staff a ton of room to plan and build their vision.

These moves aren't the end of the plan, they are clearly foundational moves for building a strong competitive franchise.

Yeah, not sure why he's in an uproar about those FA moves. They were one year deals at lost costs. It's a win win. You upgrade what you had before without breaking the bank and allowing you to use them as stop gaps. Ertz, Ekeler, and Wagner were great moves IMO. Not much risk to them. If they flop, it was a one year deal. Nobody cares.
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Yeah, not sure why he's in an uproar about those FA moves. They were one year deals at lost costs. It's a win win. You upgrade what you had before without breaking the bank and allowing you to use them as stop gaps. Ertz, Ekeler, and Wagner were great moves IMO. Not much risk to them. If they flop, it was a one year deal. Nobody cares.
If you read what I wrote I do like some of the moves and overall I like that Peters is shaking things up. There were a few that I would have passed on. Definitely not in an uproar.. These are all smart signings financially.
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If you read what I wrote I do like some of the moves and overall I like that Peters is shaking things up. There were a few that I would have passed on. Definitely not in an uproar.. These are all smart signings financially.
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i would think adams is trying to build something competitive for next year then to continue to build from there

non of these signings make super excited that we are even playoff bound next year but its a start
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We still have six draft picks in the top 101, the second wave of free agency which thanks to these contracts we have room to be a player in that part as well, And finally there's the cuts that come after the draft that we can take advantage of. To get this many top quality starters and role players this early gives this coaching staff a ton of room to plan and build their vision.

These moves aren't the end of the plan, they are clearly foundational moves for building a strong competitive franchise.

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Ekeler averaged a paltry 3.5 ypc last year and had 628 yards and got hurt. But if he is used just as a 3rd down back then that's probably good.
628 rushing, 436 receiving. not sure on snap count, but not as bad as it seems. Other sites are reporting 2y/8.4m (4.2/per) vs the 11m (5.5/per) I've seen... I'm not sure which is right (or is that just incentives?), but at 4.2 it's a much better deal.


wagner is a 1-year rental, and I think it's fine for what we paid. he still had 183 tackles and 3.5 sacks last year.
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So you think Peters knocked it out of the park? We've been down this road before, signing a bunch of free agents.

Let's be honest, most of these guys are injury prone, past their primes or didn't live up to their potential. The good part is these are team friendly deals. Smart signings money wise.

I get what Peters is doing. He has to come in here and start turning this roster over. I just think a few of these signings are terrible. But some are good, particularly the center. Gotta get an experienced center if you're playing a rookie.
The way I see this group of FA is:

* Some solid day one starters (Luvo, Armstrong, and Biadasz)

* Two needed specialists (McManus and Ott)

* Low risk/high reward guys past their primes (Ertz, Ekeler, Wagner)

* And the rest are going to compete for starting spots and/or serve as backups.

IMO these are smart signings, with good team friendly contracts, and needed bodies since the team has let most of the expiring contracts walk. We know this team is going to build through the draft and using free agency as a complement to the draft. And they are sticking to the plan, and that is better than any flashy free agency acquisition (how many of those have worked out in the past? None).
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So you think Peters knocked it out of the park? We've been down this road before, signing a bunch of free agents.

Let's be honest, most of these guys are injury prone, past their primes or didn't live up to their potential. The good part is these are team friendly deals. Smart signings money wise.

I get what Peters is doing. He has to come in here and start turning this roster over. I just think a few of these signings are terrible. But some are good, particularly the center. Gotta get an experienced center if you're playing a rookie.

?? Most??? Most of these players are not past their primes or injury prone. Alegretti 27 no injury concerns; Biadiax 26 no injury concerns; D Armstrong 26 no injury concerns; Luvu 27 no injury concerns; That's four starters, the other 2 that are clearly starters, Wagner has no injury concerns and Chinn is 26 and both those guys have minimal 1 year contracts.
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?? Most??? Most of these players are not past their primes or injury prone. Alegretti 27 no injury concerns; Biadiax 26 no injury concerns; D Armstrong 26 no injury concerns; Luvu 27 no injury concerns; That's four starters, the other 2 that are clearly starters, Wagner has no injury concerns and Chinn is 26 and both those guys have minimal 1 year contracts.
The only injury concerns are Ertz and Ekeler, and as I said, those were the low risk/high reward, incentive-laden deals that the team made.
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The only injury concerns are Ertz and Ekeler, and as I said, those were the low risk/high reward, incentive-laden deals that the team made.
Ertz I dont expect to be the full time starter, Ekeler i see splitting carries and being used the way the Eagles used Sproles as to minimize his injury chances
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?? Most??? Most of these players are not past their primes or injury prone. Alegretti 27 no injury concerns; Biadiax 26 no injury concerns; D Armstrong 26 no injury concerns; Luvu 27 no injury concerns; That's four starters, the other 2 that are clearly starters, Wagner has no injury concerns and Chinn is 26 and both those guys have minimal 1 year contracts.

Thanks because I wasn’t sure where to begin. These are far from the terrible contracts we used to hand out to over the hill stars. How anyone can have a problem with what Peters just did is bat shit crazy. But that will become painfully obvious when the season starts.
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