Commanders 2024 NFL Draft Thread

[EdmundDorf]

Thing is, OT are always overdrafted, especially when there is a danger of a run on the position. If they wait for value at OT they wont get one. In a perfect world they could take DeJean at 36 and trade down from 40 to select Suamaetiea (?) or Paul in the 50s. But they will probably have to take one of them at 40. They will likely also need to take one of Fischer/Rosegarten/ Amegadjie/Wallace high in the third. If you ascribe to the more picks is more chances philosophy, which is not neessarily wrong, then you need to draft multiple OT in the hope at least one will turn out to be a decent starter.
You never want to go into a draft desperate for an OT.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Thing is, OT are always overdrafted, especially when there is a danger of a run on the position. If they wait for value at OT they wont get one. In a perfect world they could take DeJean at 36 and trade down from 40 to select Suamaetiea (?) or Paul in the 50s. But they will probably have to take one of them at 40. They will likely also need to take one of Fischer/Rosegarten/ Amegadjie/Wallace high in the third. If you ascribe to the more picks is more chances philosophy, which is not neessarily wrong, then you need to draft multiple OT in the hope at least one will turn out to be a decent starter.
You never want to go into a draft desperate for an OT.

So they won't get one. It would be stupid to draft a player that can't contribute over a player that could.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

So they won't get one. It would be stupid to draft a player that can't contribute over a player that could.

I disagree. Look at Penix Jr - he gets to sit and learn from a good qb and if that good qb who never got injured until last year gets injured again they will have a good rookie in there to take his place.

Not saying we should draft a DT when we already have two good players on big money deals, but I'm not gonna question Peters. You draft the guy you think has the best chance to succeed in the NFL, not the position you need the most. Look at the 2021 qb class - that class has mostly turned out to be ass and even Trevor Lawrence isn't a stud and he's the only one left with his original team.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by mooby

I disagree. Look at Penix Jr - he gets to sit and learn from a good qb and if that good qb who never got injured until last year gets injured again they will have a good rookie in there to take his place.

Not saying we should draft a DT when we already have two good players on big money deals, but I'm not gonna question Peters. You draft the guy you think has the best chance to succeed in the NFL, not the position you need the most. Look at the 2021 qb class - that class has mostly turned out to be ass and even Trevor Lawrence isn't a stud and he's the only one left with his original team.

?????? You just said you disagreed with me saying don't reach for a player and then argued to not to reach for a player? You probably need to see the post I was responding to.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

?????? You just said you disagreed with me saying don't reach for a player and then argued to not to reach for a player? You probably need to see the post I was responding to.

I'm paraphrasing here but I think you said it would be stupid to draft a player who can't contribute over one who can.

My argument is that even if Penix Jr doesn't contribute this year, him sitting and learning isn't a bad thing. And if Cousins does get hurt again they have a young developing qb to turn to.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm paraphrasing here but I think you said it would be stupid to draft a player who can't contribute over one who can.

My argument is that even if Penix Jr doesn't contribute this year, him sitting and learning isn't a bad thing. And if Cousins does get hurt again they have a young developing qb to turn to.

That is what I said I guess we had a different understanding of the wording (My fault). Poster I was responding to wanted to reach if necessary for OT instead of taking more talented players at other positions of need like CB. I thought it would be stupid to pass up better players that can contribute than a lesser talent that wouldn't really contribute (or would be less likely to).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

I disagree. Look at Penix Jr - he gets to sit and learn from a good qb and if that good qb who never got injured until last year gets injured again they will have a good rookie in there to take his place.

Not saying we should draft a DT when we already have two good players on big money deals, but I'm not gonna question Peters. You draft the guy you think has the best chance to succeed in the NFL, not the position you need the most. Look at the 2021 qb class - that class has mostly turned out to be ass and even Trevor Lawrence isn't a stud and he's the only one left with his original team.

You learn by playing. Never bought into the sit and learn stuff. Kirk is on borrowed time.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You learn by playing. Never bought into the sit and learn stuff. Kirk is on borrowed time.

with his $100mil guaranteed contract? If only we could all be so lucky.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

You learn by playing. Never bought into the sit and learn stuff. Kirk is on borrowed time.

Two recent examples of sitting and learning panning out: Patrick Mahomes and Jordan Love.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mooby

Two recent examples of sitting and learning panning out: Patrick Mahomes and Jordan Love.

Both likely would have been just fine if they played right away, especially PM

[mooby]

Originally Posted by MTK

Both likely would have been just fine if they played right away, especially PM

That argument is all hearsay because it's not solvable. Playing the what if game doesn't help.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Both likely would have been just fine if they played right away, especially PM

You don't know that though. That's the entire point. THey were successful after sitting. Most of the QBs successful sat first for the most part. Either that or the ones that "succeed" are done once their running ability wanes around 31 years of age.

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by MTK

Both likely would have been just fine if they played right away, especially PM

For us in the Snyder era, whether you played right away (Forbes) or didn’t play right away (Howell) made no difference in the end due to lousy team management and coaching


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[sdskinsfan2001]

WE NEED LADD!!! Replace Samuels in the slot.

Daniels, McLaurin, Robinson/Ekeler, McConkey, Ertz, Dotson. That's a solid fucking group.